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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    Dang, I thought for sure that would actually have a date in it. I guess we're still in the dark.
    some people are never happy lol..

    in his last paragraph yoshi-p says "just a few weeks away" now unless that was translated for him and wrongly "a few weeks" is less than "a month" otherwise he would have said "a month away" "just over a month away" so i would suspect that we are looking at a date close to but not after 20/12/2013 (12/20/2013)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DenzelTaru View Post
    some people are never happy lol..

    in his last paragraph yoshi-p says "just a few weeks away" now unless that was translated for him and wrongly "a few weeks" is less than "a month" otherwise he would have said "a month away" "just over a month away" so i would suspect that we are looking at a date close to but not after 20/12/2013 (12/20/2013)
    They also said a patch every 3 months, and we can all see how that turned out. The fact that they had to halt development on the patch to deal with the server stability issues (which I understand were well known in beta) shows how seriously we can take the estimates of this team.

    If there is no date, it means they aren't sure it will be released and don't want to be held responsible for missing another release date. "A few weeks" could mean a couple of months (after all, 7 weeks could still be a "few").

    Don't get me wrong, I understand that it would be terrible for the long term success of the game if they delayed patch 2.1 again -- but there is no guarantee that companies will actually act in their own best interests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lingarn View Post
    They also said a patch every 3 months, and we can all see how that turned out. The fact that they had to halt development on the patch to deal with the server stability issues (which I understand were well known in beta) shows how seriously we can take the estimates of this team.
    September, October, November... That's three months. 2.1 was originally set for release this month, but due to the changes and 'grab everyone we can so we can fix this' of Server Jam they were forced to delay it. By a shocking one month! About how long it took them to finally get all the issues with Server Jam fixed and stable.

    The stability issues didn't emerge until open beta, and were misdiagnosed. They believed they had fixed that problem (they hadn't), and went ahead with Early Access (a mistake). SE has been far more open about the issues they are dealing with and have dealt with than most other MMOs. The time estimates they gave for getting the server issues resolved seemed pretty accurate to me. They announced when the new adjustments and servers would be ready, and that's when they were ready.

    I can wait. I'd rather they released content when it's ready, rather than to a schedule. They stuck to a schedule with the launch, and look how that worked out.

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    FIX Warrior now you silly, circle talking, procrastinating man.
    Here's the planned changes for MRD and WAR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uldi View Post
    September, October, November... That's three months.
    Yes, and no patch this month. Thank you for reinforcing my point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uldi View Post
    2.1 was originally set for release this month, but due to the changes and 'grab everyone we can so we can fix this' of Server Jam they were forced to delay it.
    Missing a deadline isn't shocking -- but it also means you don't believe anything without an actual release date. We don't know how long it will be before patch 2.1 lands.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uldi View Post
    The stability issues didn't emerge until open beta, and were misdiagnosed. They believed they had fixed that problem (they hadn't), and went ahead with Early Access (a mistake).
    Which demonstrates judgment issues. We disagree on optimism, not the facts.

    Once someone demonstrates that they have done their job poorly, it is up to them to shape up and prove they deserve trust. Missing the first patch release is a bad way to start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lingarn View Post
    Once someone demonstrates that they have done their job poorly, it is up to them to shape up and prove they deserve trust. Missing the first patch release is a bad way to start.
    And in my opinion, they did. They corrected the server issues in what? Just over two weeks after launch? And they were open about what they were doing, though those that live on Twitter and other social media might disagree.

    I see no reason to do more than shrug at such a minor delay.
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