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    Quote Originally Posted by Huxer View Post
    Not that I care concerning people complaining or attitudes or how bored someone is, all that has little to no meaning for me. Now you are making a logical falicy concerning the state of WoW where you seem to think it's because the content in Wow was made too hard in pandatown? You think THAT's why people left? Get real. Please don't go to law school.
    Actually, after WoTLK came (ugh) Cataclism. One of the main complaints about that expansion was the difficulty level for Heroics. Wrathbabies couldn't cope I imagine.

    About the topic at hand? Well 15$/€ per month uis quite cheaper than any analist will charge.... It is true that there a many problems with teh game, but surely screaming and whining on a forum isn't the best way to deal with them and doesn't foster any form of discussion.
    Saying "This sux" or "Not enough content" is akin to hope that it will stop raining because you are unhappy about the weather
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razzle View Post
    I didn't play WoW but if Blizzard did lose so many subscriptions for listening to their customers as you claim they did, then maybe they took the wrong decisions. But it's their fault for taking the wrong ideas out of their player base. If you tell everyone to shut up, it will also shut up the good ideas the players can offer.
    They listened to a vocal minority (hardcore raiders) exactly like Anet listened to the wowtards asking for gear grind.
    All in all, devs should only listen to bug reports and stick to their guns, because whatever choice they will make, a part of the player base will find a reason to quit or complain.
    At least that way, the game might not be a success but it will be the game they wanted to make
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malekith View Post
    At least that way, the game might not be a success but it will be the game they wanted to make
    That's the point, if the game will fail - It won't be...
    SE want to attract new players as well as maintain their current community, and I don't see how telling people to just leave if they're not happy, will help SE achieve that lol...

    Maybe my logic is just wrong ( > . >
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    There's no way to tell who you should listen to. You can listen to everybody and end up with the Homer, or you can listen to no one and stick to your guns and possibly crash and burn just as bad. In the end the developers need to listen to people who know what they're doing. How do you tell who that is? Hell if I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razzle View Post
    That's the point, if the game will fail - It won't be...
    SE want to attract new players as well as maintain their current community
    No it's that you don't understand or even try to understand. No one is saying people to leave, OP is saying "If you think the game is crap (or partially crap), instead of spending your time filling the forums with pointless, non-constructive whines and flame wars, go to play something that you enjoy". No one is saying nothing about complaints that lead to discussion. SE knows well that after 1-2 months games shed people:the locusts jump on another game, the wowtards go back to wow, and so on... Honestly, if you ask my opinion, they went too overboard with the dumbing down and 'speed levelling' and this will in the medium term hurt the game a lot, but that's just my personal opinion and I am not going to start threads over thread about this.
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    Not enough hugs from mommy as a child *nods
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toystore View Post
    There's no way to tell who you should listen to. You can listen to everybody and end up with the Homer, or you can listen to no one and stick to your guns and possibly crash and burn just as bad. In the end the developers need to listen to people who know what they're doing. How do you tell who that is? Hell if I know.
    Good point. They should though think about poaching a few westernized or south korean dev people though to help them out. With there concept. Not waste money. Though Trying stuff other people have done and would not work and just work on cleaning there game up and add what square devs want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razzle View Post
    That has nothing to do with what I said. This thread is telling people to just leave the game instead of voicing their concerns. But people shouldn't just "shut up and leave" As you claim they should. They should complain in the forums and then SE can decide to which complaints they listen and to which they don't.

    I didn't play WoW but if Blizzard did lose so many subscriptions for listening to their customers as you claim they did, then maybe they took the wrong decisions. But it's their fault for taking the wrong ideas out of their player base. If you tell everyone to shut up, it will also shut up the good ideas the players can offer.
    You often can't tell if it's a bad or good idea. People would take longer to complete content. It would enforce a "sense of community" by having everyone communicate and work together to beat bosses. what could go wrong with the plan?

    It also seemed that 2.05 was a good idea. It seems like all it did was increase the speed people would burn out of the game, since now speed running WP became a thing, mobs are still skipped, money is no longer something to spend time getting, manually repairing your gear became useless.

    There's no complaint SE can listen to, anyway. Most people here just whine on and on about things that can't be changed. SE can't poop out 10 new dungeons (to be ignored in favour of the fastest one).
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    I suppose if any of us knew who to listen to we'd be sitting atop a pile of cash. Such is the burden of the creator, take the criticism, the good and the bad, and trust your judgment with what to listen to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron_T View Post
    I really am not happy with a lot of things about this game right now
    Then you know what to do, follow your own advice.
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