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  1. #111
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    Dante Goldenpaws
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    Plus it's not like NIN was the only evasion tank in XI - a well geared DNC could do it surprisingly well (or even PUP).


    I'd much rather see Mystic Knight or "Rune Fencer" make its way into XIV over DRK as a new tank - DRK should be more offense oriented and take advantage of the great DD tools MRD has access to. Besides it's not like every job is locked into the same general role as the base class (see: SMN vs SCH).


    That said, it's also one of the reasons I actually much prefer XI's design over XIV's when it comes to jobs, equipment and abilities (minus auto-learning stuff like spells I mean) - while outdated and flawed, XI's system was also infinitely more flexible than the armory system. You will *never* see BLU in this game because of it, it just can't work. BST won't happen either due to the nature of the game's content and how trashy most mobs are anyway (unless it was all based on Call Beast and no charm)
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  2. #112
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    Adol Giantbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by NefGP View Post
    That said, it's also one of the reasons I actually much prefer XI's design over XIV's when it comes to jobs, equipment and abilities (minus auto-learning stuff like spells I mean) - while outdated and flawed, XI's system was also infinitely more flexible than the armory system. You will *never* see BLU in this game because of it, it just can't work. BST won't happen either due to the nature of the game's content and how trashy most mobs are anyway (unless it was all based on Call Beast and no charm)
    They could do BLU or BST. At the end of the day, *charm* as it was in XI probably wouldn't exist, but the learning of new abilities would likely be tied to class quests instead of actually going out and getting hit by the monsters or taming wild monsters. For instance, BLU quests to go get monsters to cast stuff on you to learn it or BST quests where you have to tame something before you actually get access to the "Call Beast" for that monster.
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  3. #113
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    Vespereaux Vaillantes
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    I also would like to see Mystic/Rune Knight (Celes from 6 and class from 5 being the inspirations) as the next tanking class that's gimmick is more magic damage mitigation and "absorbing" attacks (mitigates damage by increasing parry rate) that then power special abilities like special magical sword attacks a la ff5 Mystic Knight or defensive abilities, making their tanking sort of like a cross between the current Paladin and Warrior style of tanking (Some straight mitigation like PLD with a mix of managing stacks that power abilities like WAR) but with a more magical bend to them.

    Also, while people know of the Corsair/Musketeer class being planned and you can see their HQ location in Coral Tower, has anyone else noticed the blocked up door to the left of the entrance to the Pugilist area in Ul'Dah? There is a sign above the door with a die and something else. Wonder if that is anything and if so what it is.
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
    Also, while people know of the Corsair/Musketeer class being planned and you can see their HQ location in Coral Tower, has anyone else noticed the blocked up door to the left of the entrance to the Pugilist area in Ul'Dah? There is a sign above the door with a die and something else. Wonder if that is anything and if so what it is.
    It's a casino - that's what the Platinum Mirage has always been, a gambling den, even in 1.0 (the PGL Guild is actually a force of hired muscle usually used to 'collect' on debts owed by gamblers to it) - some players are suggesting that the doorway is planned to lead to the (to be added in a future patch) Gold Saucer, but nothing is known for certainty.

    What is known about it though is the npcs next to it specifically state it's a casino with a very exclusive membership, hence why it's blocked off at this time. It has nothing to do with any hypothetical classes/Jobs in the future I'm afraid (remember, Jobs don't have Guilds - only classes do).
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    It's a casino - that's what the Platinum Mirage has always been, a gambling den, even in 1.0 (the PGL Guild is actually a force of hired muscle usually used to 'collect' on debts owed by gamblers to it) - some players are suggesting that the doorway is planned to lead to the (to be added in a future patch) Gold Saucer, but nothing is known for certainty.
    Ah, I figured it was intended to be associated with gambling but wasn't sure if it was going to be linked to the planned Gold Saucer.
    Still, the Platinum Mirage and Gold Saucer would be a great way to introduce Gambler (Setzer from FF6) and Calculator classes, but I digress.
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  6. #116
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    Akira Pink
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    dodge tank coming from PUG.
    some king of knight-like tank coming from LNC

    You can argue over their names, but these two things make the most sense. both classes already have defensive cooldowns which would be useful as a tank.
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  7. #117
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    Elysia Mazda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akirakogami View Post
    You can argue over their names, but these two things make the most sense. both classes already have defensive cooldowns which would be useful as a tank.
    Every melee class past, present, and future will have defensive cooldowns. They are absolutely essential to solo balance. It has nothing to do with tanking at all.
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  8. #118
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    everyone wants Dark Knight tanks or Samurai Tanks..i'm assuming SE is not going to do either since there is so much speculation into it. There are so many other classes that can tank in the FF universe. Also Yoshi has said that the next implementation of classes will be musketeer since there is a guild in Limsa and they looking towards a rogue/thief type class since the game was released with no stealth/assassin. Which is fail since most MMOs have one at release.
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Techro View Post
    they are looking towards a rogue/thief type class since the game was released with no stealth/assassin.
    to dive further into this point. The picture for the Moogle Mog king has the other moogles with it which have the all the starter classes we have now, in addition, it also has a thief. I would assume that the abilities are being implemented and created for it now and will be released in a patch down the road. see below. IMO.

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  10. #120
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    Hawk Highwind
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    If they did put in thief it should be a class not a job. Thieves are usually weaker in other games. In ragnarok the thief could branch and become rogue or assassin. I could see thief branching to ninja because if you base it off real ninja, they were not only killing machines but spies and thieves. As for dark knight I have little knowledge of it but would be cool to see. I also think there should be another tanking class. I play a war, not that well but I'm learning, because I thought it was a dd from the trailer. Now that I'm playing it I'm having fun with it. But really I do think there should be a third option for us tanks.
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