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  1. #71
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    Mezolitik's Avatar
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    Berthom Sur
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 34
    The problem is with players' mentality.

    "This game is too short because I sat here for six weeks solid and did literally nothing else."

    "Crafting is too easy because I bought all the materials and stacked leves for a month to get all classes to 50."

    Many of the crafting classes are dependent on each other (Carpenter/Botany, Goldsmith/Miner, etc.) it's such a shame to grind one to 50 while ignoring other relevant classes.

    I recently got Carpenter to 30, which means I now need Botanist at 30 to continue; I also need to murder Aldgoats. It's so satisfying to finally unlock a new tier of e.g. Miner and be able to carry on gathering materials for Goldsmith, for example.
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  2. #72
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    Tygari's Avatar
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    Tygari Krystalpaw
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    Gilgamesh
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    Weaver Lv 68
    Quote Originally Posted by LiadansWhisper View Post
    How does this hurt you in any way? Are they taking your leve quests? Wait, are they not buying the HQ stuff you put up on the Marketboards? Could that be the source of your jealousy?
    Clearly someone has a run away ego.
    I refuse to sell to people who merely wish for Leve turn ins with no work.
    Crafting leveling shouldn't be bought, they should be leveling through doing.
    Only people who love to abuse cheats would even consider this as a fair option to use.

    So now that you have every craft to 50, you want to make it harder for everyone else. Huh. And you'd be totally cool with all of your crafts being deleveled, too, right? So that you, too, would have to experience this "new and improved" crafting system, right?
    Yes I would be perfectly fine with that.
    I have no problem at all redoing my levels if it meant fixing the crafting system.
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  3. #73
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    LiadansWhisper's Avatar
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    Liadan Summerfield
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Tygari View Post
    Clearly someone has a run away ego.
    I refuse to sell to people who merely wish for Leve turn ins with no work.
    Crafting leveling shouldn't be bought, they should be leveling through doing.
    Only people who love to abuse cheats would even consider this as a fair option to use.
    If you put things up on the Marketboards, you have no control over who buys them. Could be some dude who wants the piece of gear for actual leveling. Could be some dude that wants to buy it for a leve. Could be bought with legit money. Could be bought with gil purchsed via RMT. You have no way of knowing. So to prevent such a terrible event, are you, therefore, not putting up any HQ items on the Marketboards? Because heaven for-fend one of these terrible people get a hold of your exquisitely crafted items.

    Yes I would be perfectly fine with that.
    I have no problem at all redoing my levels if it meant fixing the crafting system.
    Uh huh. Sure you would be.
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  4. #74
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    Ksenia's Avatar
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    Ksenia Solo
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    Sargatanas
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    Weaver Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mezolitik View Post
    The problem is with players' mentality.

    "This game is too short because I sat here for six weeks solid and did literally nothing else."

    "Crafting is too easy because I bought all the materials and stacked leves for a month to get all classes to 50."

    Many of the crafting classes are dependent on each other (Carpenter/Botany, Goldsmith/Miner, etc.) it's such a shame to grind one to 50 while ignoring other relevant classes.

    I recently got Carpenter to 30, which means I now need Botanist at 30 to continue; I also need to murder Aldgoats. It's so satisfying to finally unlock a new tier of e.g. Miner and be able to carry on gathering materials for Goldsmith, for example.
    I liked 31. It was the level where you had all Velveteen and silver. 39 you graduate to Linen. Once you get 31 Botany you will be able to gather pigments and dye your crafting suit as well.

    I did let this thread get to me though. Before it started I was leveling all crafts at once. Systematic steps, gear set to gear set. Since this thread started I punched two to 50 and built material stacks for the triple turn in leve quests for the other three I don't have to 50. I didn't want to plow through them but I don't really want to get caught by the nerf bat. Had it happen in the past.
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    Last edited by Ksenia; 11-20-2013 at 07:04 AM.

  5. #75
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    Raskbuck's Avatar
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    Rask Crowe
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    Leviathan
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bufkus View Post
    lol pudding flesh is 10k+ on leviathan. all the other ingredients like wyvern obsidian are cheap due to botters. pudding flesh can't be botted. leviathan's economy is one of the worst among the non-legacy servers due to botters and cheaters.
    I was referring to how accessible it is nowadays as opposed to back then, where people didn't even know where to get it.
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  6. #76
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    Shimaaji's Avatar
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    Shimaaji Kaldeth
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 86
    Actually I think it's no use thinking about this now.

    Honestly: Those who started on release and power-level with an abundance of free time already have all the DoH and DoL classes at 50. What now? Make it more difficult and time consuming, so that people with a real life are punished for not abusing the system by playing non stop directly after release?

    I know that I would be enraged.
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  7. #77
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    DukeGr's Avatar
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    Ralkon Kon'lai
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    Taking all crafts to level 50 is just the first step. Next u need to get gear and socket it up properly which is very hard and expensive to do and then find techniques and stuff u can craft in order to make a decent profit. I am almost certain from all the powerlevelers and people that reach 50 maybe a 5-10% continue actively crafting, rest get bored outta their life once they see theres not any big easy profits to be made.
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