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  1. #31
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    Whatever they do they need to stick to their quarterly major update schedule with an expansion at 3.0, 4.0 etc, content at the moment is very thin.
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  2. #32
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    Since no one has gotten it exactly right...

    Vanilla FFXI had 12 jobs
    Summoner launched 1 or 2 patches before Zilart release with just Carbuncle.
    Zilart brought SAM NIN DRG
    CoP Nada
    ToAU BLU COR PUP
    Wings SCH DNC
    SoA RUN GEO
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  3. #33
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    Conradus Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardes View Post
    I think zilart came with samurai, dragoon, ninja? Can't remember what cop introduced, jobs wise (summoner?) but I know for sure toau introduced blue mage, corsair, puppet master. Then wotg introduced scholar and dancer, while adoulin introduced geomancer and rune knights.

    So that's 3, 1 (unsure), 3, 2, 2? Hopefully ARR expansion starts with introducing 3 new jobs, or a major update introducing 1 job and then 2 jobs at expansion.

    Now that I think about it, that's quite a few jobs pre zilart (6 basic, 5 unlocks). Maybe some of them were from updates.
    Zilart had Samurai, Dragoon and Ninja, right. Summoner was released with Zilart but technically wasn't part of it; you could unlock Summoner without having Zilart. However, you had to have Zilart to unlock any of Summoner's avatars beyond Carbuncle, so your Summoner was gimped if you didn't have Zilart. I always regarded Summoner's release in the vanilla FFXI as sort of a Zilart "free sample" to encourage people to get Zilart.

    Promathia introduced no new classes whatsoever.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
    Since no one has gotten it exactly right...

    Vanilla FFXI had 12 jobs
    Summoner launched 1 or 2 patches before Zilart release with just Carbuncle.
    Zilart brought SAM NIN DRG
    CoP Nada
    ToAU BLU COR PUP
    Wings SCH DNC
    SoA RUN GEO
    As a small addition, Crystalline Prophecy/Moogle Kupo d'Etat/Shantotto Ascension were classified as "Add-on scenarios" and Abbysea as "Add-on battlefields", so it might be unfair to call them "expansions" that didn't add any classes, as SE never called them "expansions".
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
    Since no one has gotten it exactly right...

    Vanilla FFXI had 12 jobs
    Summoner launched 1 or 2 patches before Zilart release with just Carbuncle.
    Zilart brought SAM NIN DRG
    CoP Nada
    ToAU BLU COR PUP
    Wings SCH DNC
    SoA RUN GEO
    That's 23 jobs, last i checked FFXI still has 22.

    I seem to remember reading in Elmer the Pointy's history that Summoner was a pre-Zilart release and I'm pretty sure Zilart was Samurai/Ninja/Dragoon. My guess is it was 11 at release with Summoner the 12th just before Zilart. Which would mean up until Zilart Summoner only had its nuclear squirrel (all the avatar battles - i think, it's been a while - take place in Zilart areas except Diablos (CoP) and Alexander/Odin (ToAU)).
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  6. #36
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    Kaedian Shadowborn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhindas View Post
    It's been too long...but I think Summoner was before Zilart. *snip*
    From the wiki
    Using NA release dates for simplicity

    Prior to the Zilart expansion, the standard jobs were Warrior, Monk, White Mage, Red Mage, Black Mage, Thief. extra jobs were Dark Knight, Paladin, Ranger, Bard, Summoner and Beastmaster. (FWIW I don't recall Beastmasters being in game during the Zilart expansions which is when I played, but I also am shaky on what I had for breakfast yesterday)

    Zilart - 2003
    Samurai, Ninja, Dragoon
    CoP - 2004
    None
    ToAU - 2006
    Blue Mage, Corsair, Puppetmaster
    WotG - 2007
    Dancer, Scholar
    SoA - 2013
    Geomancer, Rune Fencer
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  7. #37
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    ITT, OP provides yet another example of why being a FFXI player carries stigma in this community (as well as others)

    Free advice: you're making XI and its fanbase look bad. Stop.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toystore View Post
    It's worth noting that there was so much to do when TBC came out that virtually nobody complained mid expansion when Hyjal and BT were end game for an entire year before Sunwell.
    It's worth noting that TBC was an expansion, and took over 2 years to release. Considering ARR is a launch title in its third month of life, you're comparing two things which aren't remotely equivalent.
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  8. #38
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    Yay! Another FFXI thread! Here, before you strain yourself anymore I've managed to fix the issue you are having with FFXIV! Please click this LINK hopefully this is what you are looking for! If not then you may need to stop, log out, and proceed to find a new home elsewhere! sorry for the inconvience this game has given you but again, please click the above link to solve your issues!
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by KyteStones View Post
    Yay! Another FFXI thread! Here, before you strain yourself anymore I've managed to fix the issue you are having with FFXIV! Please click this LINK hopefully this is what you are looking for! If not then you may need to stop, log out, and proceed to find a new home elsewhere! sorry for the inconvience this game has given you but again, please click the above link to solve your issues!
    OMG you are soooooo Right!!

    They should change nothing about FFXIV EVER!! It is 100% perfect as it is. If they added anything to the game it would just soooo ruin it.

    Especially if they added anything from FFXI... i mean, what kind of loser company even made that game?

    There is nothing at all redeemable about FFXI and nothing from that game should be carried over. I mean, 11 and 14 arent even the same number.

    Plus look at all the stupid races they had in FFXI, humans? Really? Midgets? Musclebound big people? Cat people? Elves? Come on, this is 2013!

    And all those stupid classes they had, like Paladin, Warrior, Bard, Black Mage, White Mage, Monk, Summoner... Those have nothing to to with FFXIV, at all, ever.
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    Last edited by Kazamoto; 11-19-2013 at 04:19 AM.

  10. #40
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    I've posted this many, many times...here is the FFXI update history..from the very start:
    http://z4.invisionfree.com/HCII/ar/t2095.htm

    Anyway, I hope this game doesn't follow anything more from WOW...if I wanted to play it I'd go play it. I hope the devs start to be at least a little more innovative.
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