.3 Second Positional Update Delay (Requesting Dev Response)

[Someonewithclap]

Neither myself or any people I play with have an issue with this.

Not a single person has an issue in my FC, who has 4 groups on T5.

[Versiroth]

Neither myself or any people I play with have an issue with this.

Not a single person has an issue in my FC, who has 4 groups on T5.

Honestly, good for you guys. But, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist for a lot of people. This is going to cost some people spots in raid groups. If I can't get into end game groups because I keep getting hit by AOEs out side of the damage area, then why pay for the game once I finish the story?

[Tupsi]

Honestly, good for you guys. But, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist for a lot of people.

And no one says it doesn't exist - The problem is the people with the problem simply choose to believe it's a problem with SE/Game only and it absolutely can't be an issue on their end somewhere. By "their end" either what you use to play the game or your ISP or some other middleman. Thing is, Ms Eara there wouldn't be able to dodge anything nor anyone in her FC if there was a definitely source of the problem.

Like I've said, a game doesn't selective work for some people and choose not to for others without there being a variable to decide: "I think I want to malfunction for you "

[Versiroth]

And no one says it doesn't exist - The problem is the people with the problem simply choose to believe it's a problem with SE/Game only and it absolutely can't be an issue on their end somewhere. By "their end" either what you use to play the game or your ISP or some other middleman. Thing is, Ms Eara there wouldn't be able to dodge anything nor anyone in her FC if there was a definitely source of the problem.

Like I've said, a game doesn't selective work for some people and choose not to for others without there being a variable to decide: "I think I want to malfunction for you "

Well, asking tons of people to do a bunch of upgrades when the game works perfectly fine with everything else is not a good way to keep customers. My connection shows as excellent, the game runs flawlessly with everything maxed (even when there are 50+ people on the screen during fates). Spending hundreds to "maybe" eliminate this issue is not an option for me.

[Kevee]

And no one says it doesn't exist - The problem is the people with the problem simply choose to believe it's a problem with SE/Game only and it absolutely can't be an issue on their end somewhere. By "their end" either what you use to play the game or your ISP or some other middleman. Thing is, Ms Eara there wouldn't be able to dodge anything nor anyone in her FC if there was a definitely source of the problem.

Like I've said, a game doesn't selective work for some people and choose not to for others without there being a variable to decide: "I think I want to malfunction for you "

Because EVERYONE is affected by it, just by varying degrees. You aren't not effected by it, it's just not something you can notice on your end.

And no, it's not our problems. When I can fire up Rift/WAR/Aion/Tera/GW2/Diablo 3/LoL and have zero problems, ever, then it is something SE has done differently.

[Tupsi]

Because EVERYONE is affected by it, just by varying degrees. You aren't not effected by it, it's just not something you can notice on your end.

And no, it's not our problems. When I can fire up Rift/WAR/Aion/Tera/GW2/Diablo 3/LoL and have zero problems, ever, then it is something SE has done differently.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...P2P-throttling

Pretty sure SE wouldn't have requested this information for awhile now if there's zero possibility (as you just stated) of it being on our side. SE doesn't run our ISPs, yet it's known ISPs throttle P2P traffic which some reported affect their XIV gameplay. The only thing differently SE did was their packet handling and client design, which as we've proven is way more open than it should be.

Yes, there are some issues that players can and should alleviate. But you seem to be just as much in denial that this could be SE's problem as anyone else is that it could be their own.

Considering a full PC upgrade fixed my issues with this? It's not 'denial', it's the simple fact in my personal experience it's clear there's more variables than: "It's SE's fault." In my upgrade I didn't even change manufacturers, using newer parts by the same people. Nor did I touch my ISP package or modem/router.

[Kevee]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...P2P-throttling

Pretty sure SE wouldn't have requested this information for awhile now if there's zero possibility (as you just stated) of it being on our side. SE doesn't run our ISPs, yet it's known ISPs throttle P2P traffic which some reported affect their XIV gameplay. The only thing differently SE did was their packet handling and client design, which as we've proven is way more open than it should be.

Let me bold it for you.

then it is something SE has done differently.

Thanks for agreeing with me.

The only thing differently SE did was their packet handling and client design,

[Tupsi]

Thanks for agreeing with me.

Yet there's still plenty of us without the issue which is why they're investigating this. It's already been known SE built XIV differently, no one has ever said otherwise because all throughout 1.x Yoshi went on and on about that.

[Bixby]

Considering a full PC upgrade fixed my issues with this? It's not 'denial', it's the simple fact in my personal experience it's clear there's more variables than: "It's SE's fault." In my upgrade I didn't even change manufacturers, using newer parts by the same people. Nor did I touch my ISP package or modem/router.

I your original hardware met the minimum requirements, it's not an upgrade that should have been necessary. If the game does not function correctly with the hardware it's advertised to work with, that is not the user's problem. It is SE's. The fact that you elected to buy your way out of the broken segment of the population does not mean that there is no broken segment.

You claim it's impossible for the game to be broken for some people but not others. That's a ridiculous claim. Games are constantly, routinely broken for only certain people.

[Tupsi]

You claim it's impossible for the game to be broken for some people but not others. That's a ridiculous claim. Games are constantly, routinely broken for only certain people.

Exactly. Isn't that pretty much what variables you'd have to consider being other than, "it's not my fault"?

If your original hardware met the minimum requirements, it's not an upgrade that should have been necessary.

That's the thing - On my old PC I could play XIV 1.x no problem (aside the obvious design issues), but ARR? Nothing but issues in the regard of this situation. So I got my fiance to build me a brand new pc and poof - every problem I had with ARR vanished. If I told him to go part by part I could have pinpointed it, but I know the most noticable upgrade was my Network Hardware (new mobo) and new GPU. The CPU was actually a "downgrade" if you believe the whole Intel > AMD.