[dev1081] achievements - opting out

[JunkPunch]

This is a little off topic but, would you be in favor of getting achievements for High Quality +3 R47+ Tools, Weapons, and Gear? I also didn't want to start a new thread for this simple question ^^.

Forgot to add all the R37 off hand tools excluding Carpenter, Chef and Weaver, since they have r47 off hand tools.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

What ppl mean is What happen in WoW inorder to join in on the content you must have the "gearscore" and the "achivement" Actuslly joining an event to get said achievment is hard.

[Wolfie]

What ppl mean is What happen in WoW inorder to join in on the content you must have the "gearscore" and the "achivement" Actuslly joining an event to get said achievment is hard.

This happened in FFXI as well with having all +1 gear and /NIN sub with Utsusemi: Ni and whatever else have you. People being elitists is not something that was introduced with Gearscore or Achievements, it was always there and will continue to be there in any system.

[Aver]

To be honest, I didn't know we already had an achievement-type system until I read this thread. I like it how it is - unobtrusive and completely optional. Something easy to be completely oblivious to, but easy to say "oh, that's cool" if you stumble upon it.

[Kurokikaze]

To be honest, I didn't know we already had an achievement-type system until I read this thread. I like it how it is - unobtrusive and completely optional. Something easy to be completely oblivious to, but easy to say "oh, that's cool" if you stumble upon it.

Oh really? Cause its currently bordering along the whole "why have it" premise.

My earlier statement still applies. If you don't like achievements, turn off the notification and stfu.

[Elexia]

This happened in FFXI as well with having all +1 gear and /NIN sub with Utsusemi: Ni and whatever else have you. People being elitists is not something that was introduced with Gearscore or Achievements, it was always there and will continue to be there in any system.

Gearscore took it quite a bit further than XI did. XI was more on the "friendly" side because the only time you "needed" +1 or HQ gear is if it actually has stats over the NQ version, e.g:

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Alumine_Haubert

vs it's HQ version

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Luisant_Haubert

Then you have the people who want to be as efficient as possible and try to push it on everyone else even though that extra 1 str for 82,900,999 won't do a damn thing but yeah as said that exists in every MMO.

[viion]

That is the players fault, not the system.

[Wolfie]

Gearscore took it quite a bit further than XI did. XI was more on the "friendly" side because the only time you "needed" +1 or HQ gear is if it actually has stats over the NQ version, e.g:

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Alumine_Haubert

vs it's HQ version

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Luisant_Haubert

Then you have the people who want to be as efficient as possible and try to push it on everyone else even though that extra 1 str for 82,900,999 won't do a damn thing but yeah as said that exists in every MMO.

No, sorry, the elitism in FFXI was much, much worse. Entire classes were shut out from playing, meripo parties were full of a-hole elitists, and people DEMANDED that you have top tier expensive items the moment you were able to equip them (see: haubergeon, SH, etc.). The majority of people in the LSes I've been in had to take a solid 2-3 weeks off from leveling at the level 30 and 50 mark to grind out the money they needed to buy their sniper rings and haubergeons, or their +rest MP gear and elemental staves or whatever. And god forbid you didn't have the current flavor of the month, top notch food when you joined a party.

At least WOW's gearscore elitism didn't require people to grind money for a solid month before they'd be able to participate in anything.

[Kurokikaze]

Anyone that argues that XI elitism wasn't bad didn't level a DRG in 04.

Go ahead. I'll wait.

[Aver]

Oh really? Cause its currently bordering along the whole "why have it" premise.

My earlier statement still applies. If you don't like achievements, turn off the notification and stfu.

Yarly. I couldn't care less about achievements, but they don't -bother- me. As I said, I stumbled on them, said that's nifty and went on my merry way.

If we *need* to be all crazy leet, I'd MUCH rather have titles. To me, back in the day when Vrtra was a big deal, my Vrtra Vanquisher title meant a hell of a lot more to me than a random *bloop bloop* xbox popup saying I got X amount of kills or headshots or grenade sticks etc.

All in all, it boils down to some people needing to be coddled to, and some people not giving a crap.