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  1. #161
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    Jarlax's Avatar
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    Jarlax Gennocide
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Heroicbandit View Post
    As a WAR who's used DF to fight Titan plenty of times. It's a snooze fest to avoid standing in bad as a DPS. I struggle to understand why people have trouble avoiding damage from a scripted set of events.
    good point, from 10 years of EQ1 I can tell you that Titan is easy. May be nowadays people don't want to have to get paper and pen out and memorize a rotation /shrug. Funny because in a lot of other games usually you get posts along the lines of " Why do we have to fight all this trash, why not have a really hard boss" Then this game does that and you see "the boss is to hard" and a .3 second movement positional update is to much lag because it is so hard. Must be a PC system issue because I actually stand inside of the landslide animation to not get hit by bombs after heart phase on circle pattern after dodging the ground indicator and stand right in the blast after and I only eat a weight if I am not paying attention to the rotation and even then 95% of the time don't.
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  2. #162
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    CanonRap's Avatar
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    Lorica Ariadniensis
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    Masamune
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 50
    As a DRG who has yet to legitimately clear Titan... please don't make it easier.

    My first time was with an FC group carrying me and 2 others for Relic. All 3 of us died before or during Heart phase, but the rest of the party managed it with tank/2 healers/2 DPS.

    Did a few Titan runs last night with FC (different players). I admit, there were bomb waves where I stopped attacking and stacked on healers if I missed which group fell first. But the other DRG and MNK in party had practically 0 downtime in DPS the entire fight, dodging every AOE while comboing attacks.

    I've done 4 Titan runs so far, died all 4 times, haven't made it past 25%. But Titan has been the most fun I've ever had as an MDPS, and I want to beat it fair and square.
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  3. #163
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    Nuffy Chan
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    Coeurl
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    Archer Lv 50
    pls make titane easer
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  4. #164
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    TirionCrey's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Tirion Crey
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    Phoenix
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    Gladiator Lv 86
    Helped out a FC members friend today with Hydra. Were 7 people for Ifrit, so we just grabbed a random in Revenants Toll. The friend and the random both had just AF, itemlvl 35-45 accessories and itemlvl 50 weapons. Ended up clearing Ifrit to Relic for them in a matter of 30minutes. They were dead most of the time on Titan, but still...this doesn't need to be nerfed at all.
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  5. #165
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    Dantos Vanroe
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    Goblin
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TirionCrey View Post
    Helped out a FC members friend today with Hydra. Were 7 people for Ifrit, so we just grabbed a random in Revenants Toll. The friend and the random both had just AF, itemlvl 35-45 accessories and itemlvl 50 weapons. Ended up clearing Ifrit to Relic for them in a matter of 30minutes. They were dead most of the time on Titan, but still...this doesn't need to be nerfed at all.
    So, it isnt an issue because you can carry people once you over gear it? If you had said that your FC member and the random pug could do titan just fine, but you didnt really teach your FC member or pug anything.
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  6. #166
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    Lemon8or's Avatar
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    Lemon Nate
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    Leviathan
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by TirionCrey View Post
    They were dead most of the time on Titan, but still...this doesn't need to be nerfed at all.
    Over-gearing for contents and then saying the content is not hard is not the way to go. I beat Titan with ilvl70 gears with others in similar gears so I don't think it needs nerfing at all. The DPS check is just right. You just have to learn the job you're working on to get relic.
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  7. #167
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    Hooplahs's Avatar
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    Hooplah Yoo
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    Tonberry
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    Lancer Lv 60
    There is no point of nerfing Titan at all... He isn't that hard, it just requires coordination. If they nerf Titan, then you'll see noobs that can't even dodge piercing lasers in Coil Turn 2 and such...
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  8. #168
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    Segoris Geraldine
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    Coeurl
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    As someone that only has post-heart Titan down to about 10% while I helplessly watch people not dodge the same scripted moves over and over again, I'd like this to be tougher but I'd rather see this as a 4-man with Titan hp halved. This would have a couple of effects:

    1) It reduces needing to find 7 other competent players capable of beating a scripted encounter down to 3 others. From what I can see, this is the true challenge.

    2) Shifts the challenge to the actual fight while also making it a bit more difficult. This is due to the total dps or healing of a group being reduced greater than Titan's hit points are reduced. Groups going in with 5-6 DPS now would lose 60% and 80% of their DPS respectively, but Titan only lost 50% of his HP. Groups running 3 healers and 4 dps would lose dps proportionately with Titan's HP, but now the healers would have a slightly tougher time than they would in 3-healer groups in the current fight.

    3) Carrying others and/or selling runs would become more difficult, but still possible, as the dps check is higher now which would make carrying of others slightly more difficult.

    To counter the increased challenge on dps/healers, as a tank, I'd enjoy Titan to gain either one extra ability which would require interrupting, for plumes to also be cast on tanks, or for the bombs to not have safe areas and require us to move and pay attention like healers and dps do. Right now, the only additional thing I can do to help is press some extra macros with multiple <se.##> commands (a unique sound combination for each the plumes, Limit break, and topping the tank off) and sadly people still can't follow those cues.
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  9. #169
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    Dedayius Lascarion
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    Brynhildr
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Segoris View Post
    As someone that only has post-heart Titan down to about 10% while I helplessly watch people not dodge the same scripted moves over and over again, I'd like this to be tougher but I'd rather see this as a 4-man with Titan hp halved.
    This! I want an actual challenge because the fight is a challenge, not because there are so many people involved and if one has a moment of lag and dies the fight becomes nigh impossible. I would much prefer fights that are very difficult for small groups, over only being hard because you can't find a competent group. For me, the absolute worst part of the fight is being a tank because I literally do nothing. Nothing I do is going to make or break this encounter unless I actively try to ruin it whereas if one healer or DPS goes down, the fight is significantly harder.
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  10. #170
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    peppercosmo's Avatar
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    Mochi Cottoncandy
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    its easy.. make some friends
    most ppl r like i90 items now and you can kill him fast...
    i help out with fc runs and sometimes we kill him 6+ times carrying ppl

    either get a fc or friends ^~^
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