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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post

    To thoroughly address each concern, we are unable to perform fixes and changes for everything immediately, and as a result some changes are addressed with major patches and updates. We appreciate your understanding in regards to this.

    This has zero to do with the OP.. Hes not talking about bugs hes talking about delaying content
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhope View Post
    This has zero to do with the OP.. Hes not talking about bugs hes talking about delaying content
    Camate didn't read the OP I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    Camate didn't read the OP I guess.
    He wasn't answering to the OP, but to the people making comments about why content gets delayed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    We’ve been seeing comments asking why we cannot make certain changes or fixes quicker as opposed to waiting for 2.1.
    Reason for the delay being, since you guys are haing reading comprehension problems: it's better to implement stuff together than one by one, because every time you add something, there is a possibility that it will break something else. Once a pack of thing is well implemented and tested and proved mostly harmless it gets added to the game.
    God is it so hard to read?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilan View Post
    (...) it's better to implement stuff together than one by one, because every time you add something, there is a possibility that it will break something else. Once a pack of thing is well implemented and tested and proved mostly harmless it gets added to the game.
    God is it so hard to read?
    As you can see in this and other threads, many individuals seem to be severely incapable of reading.

    Quote Originally Posted by SecondNature View Post
    (...) We dont care about the bugs, we are talking about added content and quality of life features that can be EASILY (IE i could do most of them in a days work) and patched in. It is pure laziness and incompetence by the dev team at this point.
    features that can be EASILY (IE i could do most of them in a days work) and patched in. It is pure laziness and incompetence by the dev team at this point.
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    This forum is pure gold!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Hello,

    We’ve been seeing comments asking why we cannot make certain changes or fixes quicker as opposed to waiting for 2.1.
    So when are you guys going to fix the mog station?
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhope View Post
    This has zero to do with the OP.. Hes not talking about bugs hes talking about delaying content
    Actually it does. In a branch model, new content is being created independent of the main line. Bug fixes on the other hand are implemented on the mainline as well as the branch.

    What this means is that bug fixes can be rolled out simply through the QA process, while new features require substantial patch releases and testing cycles because it isn't merely a fix to mainline but an entirely different branch.

    This is why they sometimes mention that they would like to release things sooner but cannot because of the work involved in breaking out one new feature from the branch, and merging it back into the mainline.

    Releases that are designed around regular patches typically have this kind of structure.

    You have a mainline (2.0) and a development (2.1) which is where major changes go into. You maintain 2.0 for bugfixes, but only occasionally backport changes from the development line (2.1) because the differences can be substantial in the code base, making it very difficult to safely do. Usually backports only occur for substantial flaws like security patches, where the current design is fundamentally flawed.

    Once 2.1 is rolled out, they branch again (2.2) where again major changes will be going, and the process will continue. 2.1 will be hardened and only changed for bug-fixes or minor changes which are implemented simultaneously, or very rarely a backport.

    Trying to implement substantial changes into both branches would require a significantly more aggressive QA progress and instead of speeding up patches, would slow them down. (or would involve releasing less tested software... Which nobody wants)
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhope View Post
    This has zero to do with the OP.. Hes not talking about bugs hes talking about delaying content
    I think the case here is ya'll didn't read Camates response completely.

    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Changes designed off of feedback, that also have large effects on the entire game, are ultimately implemented on a schedule decided by the Producer/Director Yoshi-P.
    Basically, if it can wait and isn't critical, it's gonna get pushed back to one of their scheduled updates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhope View Post
    This has zero to do with the OP.. Hes not talking about bugs hes talking about delaying content
    You think they actually read our posts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhope View Post
    This has zero to do with the OP.. Hes not talking about bugs hes talking about delaying content
    He did give you an answer:

    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Changes designed off of feedback, that also have large effects on the entire game, are ultimately implemented on a schedule decided by the Producer/Director Yoshi-P.
    SE works on a schedule, this game isn't something they do on their free time in their basements for free. This is their job. To get the job done they go by a schedule given to them by Yoshi P. You know, the person who fixed this game and got it pass a million subs. But to the trolls in this forum the game is always failing no matter how much it has been improved.

    Even I who hates, hates, HATES end game can acknowledge this. I don't even like most of the game once you hit level 50.
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    Last edited by LoLo; 11-15-2013 at 01:45 PM.