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    Alcide's Avatar
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    What's really disappointing is that, despite how much they like FATEs, they know right now it's a flawed system and yet they decided to make the whole event about them, gathering the whole servers in 2 spots for easy low level FATEs, making it even worse than Behemoth, Oding, Svara and whatever.

    Normally what a good designer would do is work around or avoid what he knows it's flawed, instead they decided to push the FATE system at its limit, either we're all testing how bad it is or someone at SE is really stupid.
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    Namasu Agepoyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcide View Post
    What's really disappointing is that, despite how much they like FATEs, they know right now it's a flawed system and yet they decided to make the whole event about them, gathering the whole servers in 2 spots for easy low level FATEs, making it even worse than Behemoth, Oding, Svara and whatever.

    Normally what a good designer would do is work around or avoid what he knows it's flawed, instead they decided to push the FATE system at its limit, either we're all testing how bad it is or someone at SE is really stupid.
    It's a starter quest that let any lowbie who just bought the game to participate in. It doesn't take that hard to clear it and you don't need even need to hit gold contribution. What's so flawed about having a piss easy intro quest to give out some free vanity gears for everyone?

    Please don't even try to say that no one can clear it because it's so crowded like Behemoth and Odin. Even ps3 players and low spec pc can clear this quest and come back to farm for more parcel. Oh and bonus they give you 2 whole days before the next quest chain open up! Two whole days for you to choose a good 1 hour stretch to sit down and get all the rare items. Cool.
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    Player Aerostein's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Namasu View Post
    It doesn't take that hard to clear it and you don't need even need to hit gold contribution.

    Please don't even try to say that no one can clear it because it's so crowded like Behemoth and Odin. Even ps3 players and low spec pc can clear this quest and come back to farm for more parcel.
    Yeah, uhh no. Was in a party for them, and I didn't get jack squat. The one with Lightning was the worst. At the time, nothing loaded up and the zerg finished fate in what, 7 seconds just about?
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    Ava Adore
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerostein View Post
    Yeah, uhh no. Was in a party for them, and I didn't get jack squat. The one with Lightning was the worst. At the time, nothing loaded up and the zerg finished fate in what, 7 seconds just about?
    crappy laptop user here. I finished it about 4 minutes ago, got gold. (same server as you)
    sounds like you a) didn't use any aoe (you basically HAVE to have blizzard II or flash for this one) and b) didn't turn off effects and nametags

    alternatively you can of course wait a few days and hope people will have less interest in the fate
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    Player Aerostein's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by amnie View Post
    crappy laptop user here. I finished it about 4 minutes ago, got gold. (same server as you)
    sounds like you a) didn't use any aoe (you basically HAVE to have blizzard II or flash for this one) and b) didn't turn off effects and nametags

    alternatively you can of course wait a few days and hope people will have less interest in the fate
    AoE'ing won't do anything if they don't even load. lol
    I turned off what I could, though part of the issue is being on PS3.
    It's like you said though, I'll just wait until there's less interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Namasu View Post
    It's a starter quest that let any lowbie who just bought the game to participate in. It doesn't take that hard to clear it and you don't need even need to hit gold contribution. What's so flawed about having a piss easy intro quest to give out some free vanity gears for everyone?

    Please don't even try to say that no one can clear it because it's so crowded like Behemoth and Odin. Even ps3 players and low spec pc can clear this quest and come back to farm for more parcel. Oh and bonus they give you 2 whole days before the next quest chain open up! Two whole days for you to choose a good 1 hour stretch to sit down and get all the rare items. Cool.

    The point it's not about it being easy, it's that FATE system just isn't working, they have a plan to make it a bit better in the future, but right now it's just a huge pain in the ass, it being low level and easy just means that while Odin/Behemoth is catering only lvl 50s here you actually have a much bigger audience, making it even worse.

    When you have tons of different features (quests, guildleves, guildhests, dungeons, trials) you don't chose to implement new temporary events using the only one that you know it's not working fine. I'm not saying no1 can clear it, obviously you can, but is it fun? can you actually see Lightning? This is just the worst implementation they could come up with for this event and I'm pissed cause while you can argue that with Odin/Behemoth they didn't expect the fights to turn out like this they totally knew how this was gonna work, they just chose to go this way.
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    Nuinn Nomi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcide View Post
    ... you can argue that with Odin/Behemoth they didn't expect the fights to turn out like this they totally knew how this was gonna work, they just chose to go this way.
    This is what most people love to turn a blind eye at when defending a mechanic that's working poorly.
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