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    Crimson-Falcon's Avatar
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    pugged it fron t1 - t4 and man ppl way too much exaggerating coil difficulty

    beaten all 4 without communication program and with pug group and im PS3

    the only challenge is in t5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon View Post
    pugged it fron t1 - t4 and man ppl way too much exaggerating coil difficulty

    beaten all 4 without communication program and with pug group and im PS3

    the only challenge is in t5
    You beat it only because people know the fights already. Try to pug coil with everyone not knowing the fights and no communication, you won't get anywhere. The only reason you can go from 1-4 with a pug is because the content is old and a lot have experience with it now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelouch001 View Post
    You beat it only because people know the fights already. Try to pug coil with everyone not knowing the fights and no communication, you won't get anywhere. The only reason you can go from 1-4 with a pug is because the content is old and a lot have experience with it now.

    about 5 of them dont know what coil is look like and ps3 like me and we beat it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon View Post
    about 5 of them dont know what coil is look like and ps3 like me and we beat it
    Yeah, i call bs. Beating turn 4 with 6 first timers and no communication will not happen. I doubt you'd even beat turn 2. Hell, i seriously doubt a good tank on ps3 will be able to properly handle OTing the ads in phase 6 of turn 4, you have to kite them while facing in spamming flash. And target each one and build agro before they destroy the healers. We had a ps3 tank and it was so unreliable to try and get them all that we had him MT the dreadnaughts since they're easier to pick up.

    Coil is designed to be challenged with ilvl 80 and a few 90 pieces, doing it with ilvl70 requires flawless execution. Even for turn 1.

    While i'm sure a pug with experienced people using voice chat might get to turn 4 and down it. A pug with 0 experience, ilvl70 and no voice chat -- for anyone who has beaten turn 4, i'm pretty sure you'll realize how ludicrous that sounds.

    If you think pugging titan is hard, turn 4 makes titan look like a walk in the park.

    Turn 4 is a massive dps check; as a tank, being able to hold agro for the dps required, is a big tank check. Phase 5 and especially 6 are a big heal check as well on top.
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    Last edited by Noctrin; 11-14-2013 at 09:23 AM.

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    if i remember correctly the world first who beat t4 were full ilvl70

    all i wanted to share is coil is not challenging as many ppl were exagerrate it

    well believe it or not it doesnt matter voice chat is not really required

    maybe in t5

    but i might prove it not needed there too

    btw t4 more like DPS check rather than boss fight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon View Post
    if i remember correctly the world first who beat t4 were full ilvl70

    all i wanted to share is coil is not challenging as many ppl were exagerrate it

    well believe it or not it doesnt matter voice chat is not really required

    maybe in t5

    but i might prove it not needed there too

    btw t4 more like DPS check rather than boss fight
    I call bs on it. Even with just relic they got ilvl 80 weapon. Full i70 mean they were using primal weapon.
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    Kal El
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellos2099 View Post
    I call bs on it. Even with just relic they got ilvl 80 weapon. Full i70 mean they were using primal weapon.
    He means armour. When I say "Full DL" doesn't mean I have DL weapon.
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