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    While it is unfortunate that you'd have only one given stat selection with one DPS and one support job from a class, I don't see it as particularly viable to enforce stat changes. That would effectively demand that all classes have DPS/support as one job and tank or healer as the other. ARC and THM can't tank, so they'd have to heal. CNJ can't tank, so it would have to DPS. LNC would obviously tank. The dearth of tanks would force a PGL tank(BLM, SMN, BRD, MNK, DRG, CNJ2, GLA2, MRD2). ARC healer and PGL tank would be a total mess.[/QUOTE]
    Don't say anything is impossible, conjurer to geomancer could tank, just give their level 30 ability a buff like warcraft did with druids and bearform, only call it strength of the earth, or some other hippy nonsense, increasing their defense and Vit by a certain multiplier or something, monk into dancer could be a healer, or monk into puppetmaster, give the puppet only ranged weapons, and since the puppet gets stats from master, dex could be viable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    Don't say anything is impossible, conjurer to geomancer could tank, just give their level 30 ability a buff like warcraft did with druids and bearform, only call it strength of the earth, or some other hippy nonsense, increasing their defense and Vit by a certain multiplier or something
    That's not a geomancer, that's a shapeshifter. There are a few shapeshifters in the FF series, like Morpher in FFTA and Vincent's LB in FF7. If you're going shapeshifter from CNJ, though, you've completely thrown out the class and every ability within it. It's possible, but it's not really something you couldn't do with any class. Give any generic excuse to change forms, leave everything behind, call it a "job". Worse, the WoW copypasta would be palpable. Just add Templar as holy-warrior tank for Lancer and you'd have all WoW tanks represented in ARR.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    monk into dancer could be a healer
    Many ways to make PGL into a healer. I pointed out White Monk as one. That's not really such a problem, it's the jobs which don't lend themselves to alternatives. ARC is a terrible healer and terrible tank both. You could try an alternative transformation into PIE as a support job, but you've already got BRD for support -- you'd end up with two support jobs in one class and no alternative.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    or monk into puppetmaster, give the puppet only ranged weapons, and since the puppet gets stats from master, dex could be viable.
    That wouldn't work. As I said already, pets will never overtake the master, and your PGL is still getting damage out of punching. You could put points into DEX, but you'd be better off sticking with the class stat of STR.
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    Kitru Kitera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamemako View Post
    Many ways to make PGL into a healer.
    I am *seriously* curious as to how you'd do this, given the fact that PGL has absolutely *nothing* to do with healing beyond a self heal and an AoE healing buff. It doesn't even have anything, including fundamental mechanics, that could be converted into support/healing capability without completely and utterly changing the entirety of it (including name and likely resource consumed).

    It doesn't help that the healing job that you're suggesting, White Monk, is just what FFTA and FFTA2 call what every other FF games just calls "Monk". PGL into healer makes absolutely *no* sense. Monk/unarmed fighters in the FF games get nowhere *near* being healers. Some of them get minor healing support capabilities (Monks get Chakra and Revive in the FFT games; Sabin gets Sacrifice and Chakra; Amarant gets Aura, Chakra, and Revive) but a vast majority of Monks are just straight up unarmed damage dealers.

    Trying to turn a PGL into a healer is just ludicrous on the face of it, from both a historical perspective as well as a mechanical one.
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