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    Nope. Had his chance, blew it. Yoshi-P has been here for what? 6 months now? It's already much better and the battle reform looks great.

    I'll give Yoshi-P his chance too and then I'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    Nope. Had his chance, blew it. Yoshi-P has been here for what? 6 months now? It's already much better and the battle reform looks great.

    I'll give Yoshi-P his chance too and then I'll see.
    Everything added right now could be Tanaka plan for all you know Tanaka was getting ready to change everything.

    anyways i love tanaka back to the new MMO or ffxiv.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Everything added right now could be Tanaka plan for all you know Tanaka was getting ready to change everything.

    anyways i love tanaka back to the new MMO or ffxiv.
    And they could be my plans. And they could be anybody's plans. Plans don't mean anything if the person can't carry through, and judging from the history of this game, Tanaka would probably make it an incredibly convoluted battle system reform.

    Face the facts already. Tanaka completely and totally failed as a producer on this game and it needed a new producer. Is Yoshida the producer it needs? I don't know. We'll see, but for damn sure Tanaka did terribly as a producer on this game no matter what his plans were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    And they could be my plans. And they could be anybody's plans. Plans don't mean anything if the person can't carry through, and judging from the history of this game, Tanaka would probably make it an incredibly convoluted battle system reform.

    Face the facts already. Tanaka completely and totally failed as a producer on this game and it needed a new producer. Is Yoshida the producer it needs? I don't know. We'll see, but for damn sure Tanaka did terribly as a producer on this game no matter what his plans were.
    We all know tanaka took the blame for the game i don't know why you can't see that.

    Yoshi-p been leader for how long 5month? and we have we got? Big size mobs, big size spell and few more quest that don't even have CS. Now we getting dungeon/raids i though FFXIV was going to be something else and not be a wow-clone....

    Tanaka did not have time and yoshi have all the time in the world and the game still in the same way it was just little better but not enough to make players log on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    We all know tanaka took the blame for the game i don't know why you can't see that.

    Yoshi-p been leader for how long 5month? and we have we got? Big size mobs, big size spell and few more quest that don't even have CS. Now we getting dungeon/raids i though FFXIV was going to be something else and not be a wow-clone....

    Tanaka did not have time and yoshi have all the time in the world and the game still in the same way it was just little better but not enough to make players log on.
    This is hilarious.

    It is the producer's job to set the schedule for a game. They decide the budget and the schedule, effectively deciding what makes it into the game upon release.

    Tanaka had how long to make the game good? 5 years at least. And it was crap.

    I've argued this with you before and you fail to understand anything anyone else says. You rely on the complete and total assumption that Tanaka was forced to step down and was forced to release the game before it was done (despite the fact that there is little or no evidence to say that...hence a total assumption).

    Sorry but debate with facts or don't even try :/ You just come off as a complete and total white knight every time you post about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    This is hilarious.

    It is the producer's job to set the schedule for a game. They decide the budget and the schedule, effectively deciding what makes it into the game upon release.

    Tanaka had how long to make the game good? 5 years at least. And it was crap.

    I've argued this with you before and you fail to understand anything anyone else says. You rely on the complete and total assumption that Tanaka was forced to step down and was forced to release the game before it was done (despite the fact that there is little or no evidence to say that...hence a total assumption).

    Sorry but debate with facts or don't even try :/ You just come off as a complete and total white knight every time you post about this.
    And there is little to no evidence saying that it wasn't rushed to market by Wadaface? Oh other than the game itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scherwiz View Post
    And there is little to no evidence saying that it wasn't rushed to market by Wadaface? Oh other than the game itself.
    The game shows it was rushed yes, but it doesn't show who rushed it. More assumptions pl0x? They're kinda like the MP for my trolling ability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    This is hilarious.

    It is the producer's job to set the schedule for a game. They decide the budget and the schedule, effectively deciding what makes it into the game upon release.

    Tanaka had how long to make the game good? 5 years at least. And it was crap.

    I've argued this with you before and you fail to understand anything anyone else says. You rely on the complete and total assumption that Tanaka was forced to step down and was forced to release the game before it was done (despite the fact that there is little or no evidence to say that...hence a total assumption).

    Sorry but debate with facts or don't even try :/ You just come off as a complete and total white knight every time you post about this.
    I think when it come to games producer's job is less then a producer's of a movie. Tanaka just took care of the time and set time where things should be done by and some needed more time. But at the end it's the stockholders and CEO who say here your deadline make it work and it was not enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    This is hilarious.

    It is the producer's job to set the schedule for a game. They decide the budget and the schedule, effectively deciding what makes it into the game upon release.

    Tanaka had how long to make the game good? 5 years at least. And it was crap.

    I've argued this with you before and you fail to understand anything anyone else says. You rely on the complete and total assumption that Tanaka was forced to step down and was forced to release the game before it was done (despite the fact that there is little or no evidence to say that...hence a total assumption).

    Sorry but debate with facts or don't even try :/ You just come off as a complete and total white knight every time you post about this.
    The producer sets the schedule for the team, but the deadline is out of his or her control, even if upper management decides to change it.
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    From his track record it is hard for me to believe that the poor game design and premature release was his doing. I have strong suspicions that some senior management at the company saw low earnings and wanted to rush the release of FFXIV in order to boost company earnings before the calculation of their annual performance-linked bonuses.
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