Accuracy Cap for Turn 5?

[Jahaudant]

Currently doing Twintania with exactly 480 accuracy and parsed at least 1 miss so far.

Definitely 481 or 482.

[Symbiant]

Thanks for the info. I will be posting our results soon but, if you missed @ least once @ 480 then it's most likely 482 cap. I have yet to miss w/ 477 but, we all know that could be down to sheer luck. Sort of like me having 32 back to back misses harvesting tree's w/ a 97% chance

[Ariyn]

I have had rng screw me over in the past like when ADS Crit me 6 times back to back.

While I agree that RNG is a killer sometimes, this statement is completely untrue. No Boss in coil can crit. Go back over your logs and see for yourself. I've been doing coil every week since week 2 and have yet to see 1 single crit so that is not just RNG luck. If bosses could crit tanks would be getting 1 shot pretty much every fight

[Phreak]

ADS Crit me 6 times back to back

Maybe you should run out of cannons? I've never seen ADS 'crit'

[poh]

Maybe you should run out of cannons? I\\'ve never seen ADS \\'crit\\'

He's right lol

[PiedPiper]

Yep, not coil boss can crit. That said, if you let your stacks get too high (even one extra for what your group is used too) it will "feel" like a crit. The damage does scale up quickly, but just cus he's hitting harder doens't actually mean its a crit. Just means you have too many stacks.


And yeah, dodging cannons makes your face hurt less.

[Symbiant]

I don't get hit by the cannons and typically do not get more then 4 stacks (tank swaps and all) but, I have seen large bold numbers pop up over my head which is typically a sign of a crit. Now I will admit that I never looked in my log but, in the past bold damage typically means crit. So if I made a mistake on that part fine then. I will look through the logs on the next fight so. While you people are out running amok. Why don't you do something a bit more proactive like find the real acc cap.

I find it funny that enough people can pay attention to a log on if a mob crits or not but, no one has any hard data on a acc cap. Please verify the acc cap so others can gear properly. Most people largely believe its 472 and not 482.

[PiedPiper]

Actually most of the peopel int he thread have aggreed its above 472, somewhere near 480.

Personally I know its above 472 but am pretty sure its below what ever my total while eating la noscan toast hq is. (I have missed on pulls where I forgot to eat food first, but never on pulls where i did eat). That said, we're discussing a very low miss rate (1% or less most likely) if you are at 472.

Also, there is no firm "acc cap." Its based on the stats of the enemy, so 472/475 is the cap for turn 4, but turn 5 would have a higher cap.

More, critting in a raid like coil would make little sense. Even the best geared plds would get one shot by twin if she were to crit on a death sentence (Hitting for about 8k if it crit) or a non-crit DS followed by a crit normal hit. This would be an unpredicitable tank killing mechanic for which no reliable countermeasure could be played. (You can't possibly hope to have major mitigation for every single attack, which is what you would need).

[Arthemus]

@PiedPiper

After tanking Twin for about 8 hours total, we have never once seen DS crit on our main tank, however her auto attacks do. We have had the unfortunate displeasure of getting DS followed by a crit regular attack, but the tank was left with around 1k HP and survived the damage spike with some timely heals. This is an issue we have yet to deem a "problem", and is just a mechanic that healers need to be aware of (basically make sure heals land in between DS and a regular attack).

To contribute to the actual post, We did accuracy testing for hours while parsing, and I have seen 4 misses over a span of 4 hours with 478 accuracy. When upped to 484 for the remaining 4 hours, no misses were reported thus far. Cant help beyond that as to the actual number of "cap", and its also possible that 484 is still not enough, but after 4 hours and over 2,500 hits with no misses, I am happy to consider myself capped at that number.

[Symbiant]

Ok we did another parse last night. Our lowest member was 473 (monk) me as mt 477 and we had 100% hit rate in turn 5 (2 hrs) since we have not got the mechanics down on the twin fight.

We how ever did decide to do some goofy stuff and put one of our members down to 460 acc on turn one and they had a 3.9% miss rate. We also went back and reviewed all of the logs 87 mb of data and we did not see one crit from any of the bosses. Of course I am not totally sold yet on the no crit thing just like some are not sold on the 472 cap.

So my test results coil turn 5 473 acc 100% connect
Turn one 460 acc 3.9% miss

No boss crits.

Hopefully we can get enough data to get this hit cap locked down

Thank you for all of your input.