Defaulting to self-heal?

[Little_Lulu]

I'm really confused at everyone elses confusion. THis is a simple concept . <tt> = Target of my Target /Target that this target is targeting. If you are trying to heal the target of your target... and your target is the tank..... the tank will have a monster targeted. You can not heal a monster therefore you will default to yourself. Working reliably and as intended.

<tt> Is more appropriately used for offensive abilities for example Energy Drain. Using <tt> for healing and supportive skills is just.. well silly. Your tank or party members are never going to have each other targeted unless by freak misclick and even in that case they would unlikely have the person you are actually trying to heal targeted... Stop using <tt> on cures... it's not intended for that... If you are trying to make a macro that heals your target use <mo>,<t>, <me> or <p1-8>.

[Cryvil]

You can not heal a monster therefore you will default to yourself. Working reliably and as intended.

This defaulting behavior is not intuitive. Why would a healer be particularly interested in direct-healing themselves? It makes sense only in the context of soloing, which is a tiny tiny percentage of the game. Again, how can I stop the game from doing this?

Using <tt> for healing and supportive skills is just.. well silly. Your tank or party members are never going to have each other targeted unless by freak misclick and even in that case they would unlikely have the person you are actually trying to heal targeted...

You misunderstand why someone would use <tt>. It's not about party members targeting each other. It's about who the boss is targeting. The best example of this is ADS with tank-swapping. The moment that ADS switches tanks, there is absolutely no reason to be healing the old tank anymore.

[Ferth]

I'm really confused at everyone elses confusion. THis is a simple concept . <tt> = Target of my Target /Target that this target is targeting. If you are trying to heal the target of your target... and your target is the tank..... the tank will have a monster targeted. You can not heal a monster therefore you will default to yourself. Working reliably and as intended.

<tt> Is more appropriately used for offensive abilities for example Energy Drain. Using <tt> for healing and supportive skills is just.. well silly. Your tank or party members are never going to have each other targeted unless by freak misclick and even in that case they would unlikely have the person you are actually trying to heal targeted... Stop using <tt> on cures... it's not intended for that... If you are trying to make a macro that heals your target use <mo>,<t>, <me> or <p1-8>.

Earlier in the beta it was entirely possible to use a macro like;
/ac "Cure" <tt>
/ac "Cure" <t>

And when you were targeting a mob it would cure the person who had aggro, and when you were targeting a player it would give you a generic error message for the first line and then immediately go into the second action, thus curing your actual target.

Some games even have options to have this happen automatically, all the time. Lotro has a check box in it's options called "Target Forwarding." The game automatically recognizes whether an ability you use works on your current target, and if it doesn't will then use that ability on your target's target if it is applicable.

It is actually an incredibly handy option for numerous reasons. Never seem to know which mob you are supposed to be hitting? Target the tank, all your actions will forward to his target.

Soloing a FATE while waiting for the DF? Now you can cure whoever is getting hit by your target without having to change targets yourself!

In the default settings, when you cast a spell without target (or in this case, when your target is not valid), the spell gets cast on yourself. It's somewhere in the character settings I think, and you can disable it.

This is actually really nice to know... I'll have to poke through the options to see if I can find it.

p.s. I can't seem to locate this setting... any help on where it might be?

[Cryvil]

This is actually really nice to know... I'll have to poke through the options to see if I can find it.

p.s. I can't seem to locate this setting... any help on where it might be?

Because I don't think it exists, sadly. A bit frustrating watching 1 out of 10 of my heals in the middle of a raid randomly heal me for some esoteric reason.

[Zaresin]

another thing to note about party window placement, with it being on the bottom of the screen I can see if I am standing in a red reticle and move accordingly without having to look down since my eyes are already there.