Duty FInder and monday withdraw blues.......

[Gamex]

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first notice this about two weeks ago, so whats happening is when seeking for Amdapor you get that last player that joins, typically a PLD, and then suddenly withdraws and this can happen several times. i asked another player about this and the response i got was that the person is trying to get in on a run that is almost complete so that can very quickly get their 40 points and re-duty again. i guess the object of this is a dirty speed run in a way. if your a DPS job the wait is long enough and then to have constant withdraws its even more frustrating as after so many withdraws it can even reset to the point where you have to wait an additional amount of time. i wonder can devs address this in upcoming duty finder updates????

Thanks! and good job FFXIV team!

[Grailer]

(re-psoted as advised by moderator)

first notice this about two weeks ago, so whats happening is when seeking for Amdapor you get that last player that joins, typically a PLD, and then suddenly withdraws and this can happen several times. i asked another player about this and the response i got was that the person is trying to get in on a run that is almost complete so that can very quickly get their 40 points and re-duty again. i guess the object of this is a dirty speed run in a way. if your a DPS job the wait is long enough and then to have constant withdraws its even more frustrating as after so many withdraws it can even reset to the point where you have to wait an additional amount of time. i wonder can devs address this in upcoming duty finder updates????

Thanks! and good job FFXIV team!

interesting , does this method actually work ?

[Acaelus]

interesting , does this method actually work ?

^ Just found a new way to grind tomes.

[Delorean]

interesting , does this method actually work ?

not really, it used to be really great though

people generally have enough gear and understanding of a dungeon now that it has increased success rates and now that if they need to replinish ranks in DF, it wasnt because their tank was a derp

sometimes i get in on 1/3 WP or 2/3 AK, but i almost never take 0/3 because its usually me sitting afk for as long as a dps waiting on a healer

but i dont think any action to circumvent this way of using DF is really going to do anything besides make dps players a little less annoyed and may even just increase the length of their queue times

[fraeblood]

I saw this the other day. I can't imagine this works so well. there is no real DPS check or Heal check in WP. I am sure most groups that make it to the last boss will stay and kill it. If your group is made with more fresh 50s you might just pull things slower but it is more then doable I am sure. But ya know how lemmings follow.

[Archona]

lol, you know what will happen if Square changes the way joining inprogress dungeons work? Less tanks will queue up in Duty Finder and you will still be in there waiting forever for someone to join. If you dont want your tank to bail halfway through your run, pay a tank in a top-end guild 5-10k to queue with you for your cap. Or just make some friends who will queue with you. Duty Finder = randoms, and will always have *something* wrong with it that someone wants to complain about.

Be glad the system is the way it is and that your groups get filled up at all.

Take it from a geared tank's perspective: Log on Monday, raid for an hour, run 5 WPs with FC, log off until next Monday. What incentive do I have to queue fresh dungeons if I'm myth capped within 2 hours of reset? I'm at a point where I can't even sell Philo mats for 30k each anymore, seals are pointless, and alt gear is already taken care of (3 sets of full Darklight).

The time it takes to find an inprogress dungeon is usually less than the time it takes to clear trash+first boss. Prior to the hotfix patch, this saved me a ton of gil on repairs alone. The amount of 1/3 AKs is ridiculous, as many tanks ragequit after one wipe or simply feel like its too difficult to do without a limit break.

[Gamex]

Completing a run is not an issue I am having or bringing attention to here, the issue is the flaw or loophole that is being exploited with DF (and as i say this I am thinking "exploit" duhhhhhh of course peeps gonna do that). This issue occurs not for me, and i assume others, when I am in the dungeon, rather when I am initially seeking. I can only assume when the player (not saying its JUST PLD's, just more often than not) hits the commence window one of two things happens: you get the "checking member status" window or you get insta ported to the dungeon. In the case where the player gets insta ported that's what they are going for. in the case where the "checking member status" window comes up the player quickly leaves duty as he/she knows its a full run.

Furthermore to clarify this is NOT a complaint, I get what I need to do done quite efficiently with DF. The object of this post is simply bringing it to the attention of any devs that may pr may not read this

[Leon_Stormrage]

Yes I agree with OP. It's annoying the way that the tanks are working on the DF to get easy tomes.
A good fix for this will be removing the progress information when the DF window pop up. So if you selected to join a party in progress you don't know where they are but you will join and if you leave will get the 15m of penalty

[Archona]

Yes I agree with OP. It's annoying the way that the tanks are working on the DF to get easy tomes.
A good fix for this will be removing the progress information when the DF window pop up. So if you selected to join a party in progress you don't know where they are but you will join and if you leave will get the 15m of penalty

This will just lead to less tanks queuing up overall, which will lead to increase wait times for you. I hope that is what you want!

[Zfz]

1. Tanks who don't do this will not be affects at all because...well, they don't do it in the first place.
2. Tanks who do this never queued for DF normally anyway, so they were never in the population of tanks for the normal queues anyway.
3. Hence forcing those tanks in #1 to stop doing that will not make healer/DD queues slower, because they were never in these queues anyway.

But these tanks in #1 still want to earn myth. That means they will either have to join parties in SHOUT or the 2.1 bulletin board, or they have to queue like everyone else in the DF.

So it may actually make people's queues faster.