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    Those are some very risky timers to be using with expensive mats in my opinion.

    Tiny bit of server lag and the craft may be ruined.

    Also what is the final % when there is a poor condition for the "Standard Touch" and every other touch is normal?

    In the last "100% macro" I saw, it was not actually 100% (when used as stated, with recommended stats) due to the above scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    Those are some very risky timers to be using with expensive mats in my opinion.

    Tiny bit of server lag and the craft may be ruined.

    Also what is the final % when there is a poor condition for the "Standard Touch" and every other touch is normal?

    In the last "100% macro" I saw, it was not actually 100% (when used as stated, with recommended stats) due to the above scenario.
    I use the macros as it is easier and saves a lot of time. I make alot of 2star crafts and haven't failed one yet. The use of macro's eliminates any "human" error which is quite easy with such a long sequence. But yes you are correct in stating there is a chance of failure if you have any lag. If you can't afford the loss of 1 craft I definitely recommend that you write the macro down and do it manually. I'll stick to the macro's though

    As to your other question on the final % on a poor condition for the "Standard Touch" it will still be 100% at the end as long as you follow the macro sequence I stated and end it with Byregots Blessing. The whole idea of the sequence if to build up your Control with the Inner quiet buff, not actually progress the HQ bar through the touch actions. Though they are part of what makes it possible to hit 100% when added up.

    If you have more CP you can tweak the macro even more for a even higher final touch. But at the moment there is no reason to as the sequence I've written will complete any current available crafting items to 100% HQ from NQ materials.

    Offtopic - Hey Scarez have you gotten back to your previous gil amount that was taken from us during the RMT scandal? I lost 22mill, then got a 10 day forum ban for protesting a bit too aggressively afterwards!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aphraell View Post
    As to your other question on the final % on a poor condition for the "Standard Touch" it will still be 100% at the end as long as you follow the macro sequence I stated and end it with Byregots Blessing.
    I had the same question elsewhere, but probably got lost in the shuffle/might've worded it poorly.

    So basically using a Touch on a Poor condition without getting a Touch on the linked Excellent (such as right when SH I or II goes up) is irrelevant so long as the Byregot's is handled correctly (aka, you don't spam buffs and react if Excellent pops up before Ingenuity).

    It would make sense. Saw Whitefall's method which was similar in actions used to build Quality except it lacked a Great Strides for the Standard + didn't use Innovation on Blessing so if that method does ok then yours likely has a large enough buffer to not care about those Poor conditions.

    If that's the case, I did extra safety melds for nothing, haha. Go go future proofing my gear, I guess (and hoping better crafting gear isn't added too soon, heh). Unsure if they've impacted my ability to do 1 stars without food. Would've been nice to see how much the final quality action 'overkills' the bar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vortok View Post
    I had the same question elsewhere, but probably got lost in the shuffle/might've worded it poorly.

    So basically using a Touch on a Poor condition without getting a Touch on the linked Excellent (such as right when SH I or II goes up) is irrelevant so long as the Byregot's is handled correctly (aka, you don't spam buffs and react if Excellent pops up before Ingenuity).

    It would make sense. Saw Whitefall's method which was similar in actions used to build Quality except it lacked a Great Strides for the Standard + didn't use Innovation on Blessing so if that method does ok then yours likely has a large enough buffer to not care about those Poor conditions.

    If that's the case, I did extra safety melds for nothing, haha. Go go future proofing my gear, I guess (and hoping better crafting gear isn't added too soon, heh).
    I did so much testing on 2 star food - its super cheap to practice your crafting on!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aphraell View Post
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    Using macro's is ok, but for most people they would want to change the timings to a higher setting if doing expensive crafts, e.g. (1.8 - 3), this may be slower, but at least if they lag a bit they wont lose a fortune.

    Will have to slightly disagree with macro's eliminating human error, but I do agree they reduce it greatly and are worth using xD

    Thanks for answering the question on the first standard touch.

    Offtopic - Hiya Aphraell, still no meaningful response from email support, phone support, live chat support, in game support... I've provided all the info they have asked for, including screenshots, apparently my case "has been escalated to Head Office", I keep emailing them only to be fobbed off further, though I have no intention of giving up, I still want an actual Human to investigate my account. They took 12.6mil from me and left around 5mil on my alt/retainers, when I got back I started making 1 star again, built up my gil, when onto 2 star and now have far more than I had before the suspensions. 2 star market has now gone mad on Odin and I'm back to playing my BLM, I even got to 50 now ;D
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