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    Quote Originally Posted by C-croft View Post
    Dark Knight doesn't have to be sword board
    2H was an 11 only thing. Dark Knights original concept and use was a sword and board class/job that siphoned their hp to deal damage. Leon and Cecil are prime examples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jocelyn View Post
    2H was an 11 only thing. Dark Knights original concept and use was a sword and board class/job that siphoned their hp to deal damage. Leon and Cecil are prime examples.
    and Death Knight in wow were sword and shield and so were Shadow knights in EQOA and The guy from Tactics used a sword and shield.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoujiGeki View Post
    and Death Knight in wow were sword and shield and so were Shadow knights in EQOA and The guy from Tactics used a sword and shield.
    Seeing as Death Knights and Shadow knights have absolutely no relevance here, in game or in FF lore, then this point is completely moot. (and Death Knights use 2H weapons fyi. Unless trolling, then it's a terrible attempt.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jocelyn View Post
    Seeing as Death Knights and Shadow knights have absolutely no relevance here, in game or in FF lore, then this point is completely moot. (and Death Knights use 2H weapons fyi. Unless trolling, then it's a terrible attempt.)
    Actually it is relevant cause the concept of Shadow knight is its the mirror opposite of a Pld. which almost every single lore in the world using pld is a healing tank. and Drk is always the life drainer class that usually is a Tank or DD.
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    I would do it like this..



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    Quote Originally Posted by KoujiGeki View Post
    and Death Knight in wow were sword and shield and so were Shadow knights in EQOA and The guy from Tactics used a sword and shield.
    They never used a shield never....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jocelyn View Post
    2H was an 11 only thing. Dark Knights original concept and use was a sword and board class/job that siphoned their hp to deal damage. Leon and Cecil are prime examples.
    Either way, it still doesn't matter. It doesn't have to use 1h or 2h. as long as it is a dps. If you wanted to get technical, in FF3 you could dual wield with a dark knight.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jocelyn View Post
    2H was an 11 only thing. Dark Knights original concept and use was a sword and board class/job that siphoned their hp to deal damage. Leon and Cecil are prime examples.
    No, it wasn't. If you want to get purely semantic, the first Dark Knight was a *spear* user, given the fact that Leon's best weapon was a spear, though the question of whether he is a spear + shield or simply spear fighter would be up for debate given the fact that there weren't 2h weapons so you would be wasting a slot by *not* using a shield. The same applies to the iterations of Dark Knight in 4 and Tactics: leaving a hand empty is just a waste (to use a sword 2h in Tactics, you have to specifically have the passive ability equipped and, even then, it's not really all that good). In X-2, the Dark Knight explicitly uses a 2h sword and that's an explicit stylistic choice similar to what would be involved in the ARR equipment choice since the equipment system for X-2 doesn't actually involve equipping weapons and armor.

    The only iterations where Dark Knight was given its own gear rather than just sharing the equipment system with every other class in the universe gave it a scythe, which is pretty much a completely unique weapon within the annals of the FF gearing system, or a 2h sword. Since I dearly hope they don't decide to give DRKs botany offhand weapons as their mainhands, it's a strong possibility that, if they were given their own class, they'd be using a 2h sword (and it helps that DRK really is the only job/class that they have left that could feasibly use 2h swords as their iconic weapon). If they're DPS, I strongly suspect that they'll be sword and board, but only because they'll be slapped onto the GLA as a DPS job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
    No, it wasn't. If you want to get purely semantic, the first Dark Knight was a *spear* user, given the fact that Leon's best weapon was a spear, though the question of whether he is a spear + shield or simply spear fighter would be up for debate given the fact that there weren't 2h weapons so you would be wasting a slot by *not* using a shield.
    I don't usually like to get into discussions about Final Fantasy's past on these forums, because I had enough of them during the Beta. However...

    Leon's best weapon in Final Fantasy II was actually...Masamune. The original FFII didn't have the character exclusive weapons, and Masamune was the strongest weapon in the game, with an attack power of 150. It wasn't until the PSP edition that Longinus, Ragnarok, etc. were put into the game. Additionally, swords axes and, I believe, spears could be wielded with two hands in Final Fantasy II. Equipping a shield actually halved the attack power with those weapons in exchange for the bonus to evasion.

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