Will 2.1 offer any lasting content to players who are on or cleared turn 5?

[Karnyboy]

Real life called, it's called moderation. Just saying I used to think it mattered, being server first, world first, etc...but quite frankly nobody cares. You get some free press for a bit, but at the end of the day much like the world we live in, life goes on and you will be forgotten. So why not moderate yourself to enjoy the small victories and all that stuff.

I dunno, I am grumpy, I want more to do at 50 for solo play so that while you're waiting for friends to log on you're not bored out of your tree.

[Craiger]

I don't have time to read through all posts here, so sorry if this has been answered already...

What about the 3 dungeons that will be added ? Are all three going to be between AK and Coil ?

And the three extreme modes of the primals can't all be before Coil in progression, right ? What item levels would that be...

[Esmian]

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He's actually somewhat accurate in his views. The carrot on a stick aspect is basically the center point behind theme-park MMOs. The difference you fail the realize is that in a healthy relationship between the player and the designer of the game is that the player knows and accepts this. They're paying their money based on the premise that the designer can continue offering content to them that is meaningful in some way to that particular person and they derive enjoyment from that meaningful play. This is process in MMOs has almost always been in the forum of content that allows their character to have some form of progression, usually in the form of some type of upgrade that the player can visually see(levels, loot, etc) that then allow them to tackle further challenges. And the process continues until the designer can no longer provide enjoyment for that particular person.

[Tupsi]

This game was made for casuals, so if you're running out of content/burned through coil already, its your own fault.

Only people without a social life are gonna run out of content; SE doesn't take into consideration, some of you eat, sleep, and breathe this shit.

Most content in game is one time only unless you want the armor..but I caught your sarcasm, no one would post that seriously.

[Risae]

I don't have time to read through all posts here, so sorry if this has been answered already...

What about the 3 dungeons that will be added ? Are all three going to be between AK and Coil ?

And the three extreme modes of the primals can't all be before Coil in progression, right ? What item levels would that be...

You mean the "hardmode" dungeons? Think of these as heroic daily dungeons in WoW.

[Craiger]

You mean the "hardmode" dungeons? Think of these as heroic daily dungeons in WoW.

Have they said this, or are you just guessing ? and what about the totally new one ?

I haven't found anything about where these fit into the progression of the game.

[Rubieus]

Personally, I feel the learning curve from Turn 4 to Turn 5 is a major jump. Even after the update. Twintania has so many different move sets compared to Turn 4. It's almost overwhelming. I believe (as do others) that Turn 5 was specifically put into place to keep you at bay. It's great that some players have beat it, but I don't think they were suppose to... Yet.

[Pellegri]

It's great that some players have beat it, but I don't think they were suppose to... Yet.

Saying that about twintania is like saying you think it would have been fine if they made it a gate boss where until they deemed it worthy of being killed they should have had a mechanic that prevents it from happening until then. What else could they have done other than that to prevent kills? You get the highest ilvl gear from coil and myth, if people in full lvl 90 gear couldn't get it down there's a problem, CT would not fix the issue either when it is confirmed to be ilvl 80 and easier than coil.

[Taemek]

People complaining about running out of content is like buying a box of chocolates and complaining to cadbury after you ate them all in one sitting.

Worst analogy I have ever seen and not even remotely comparable.

[Rubieus]

CT would not fix the issue either when it is confirmed to be ilvl 80 and easier than coil.

Actually that is exactly what I am saying. The only way to beat it was to get full gear. Look at BG, I don't think anyone was sporting less than. I did see one person in Vanya but I can only assume they were healer and had full materia. I could be wrong. If Twintania is an example of end game content, what comes after? Full I90+ good connection + Lucky RNG? They beat it before the update. That takes skill and luck. As I said, I don't think it was meant to be beaten just yet. Due to no other content afterwards. But someone did and that was cool.