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    Enkidoh's Avatar
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    Enkidoh Roux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    evade tanks (ninjas),
    NIN in FFXI was never intended to be a tank, they were meant to be a DD/enfeebling Job - Utsusemi was designed simply as a 'get-out-of-jail-free card' if they pulled too much hate. Of course, players being how they are, had other ideas and realized they could abuse it by using it for tanking, despite NIN having all the defense of a wet paper bag, as the only other way they can avoid attacks was with high evasion. Also they had no native hate-generating abilities and even with WAR subbed for Provoke often struggled to hold hate properly.

    Only later did SE buckle to player demands and gave NIN it's own hate-generating abilities, but it was still a glass cannon once it's shadows went down, not to mention a lot of enemies ate through shadows like they weren't even there. Hence why I seriously hope SE doesn't repeat this nonsense and keeps NIN as a DD Job in FFXIV when it's implemented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    NIN in FFXI was never intended to be a tank.......

    I seriously hope SE doesn't repeat this nonsense and keeps NIN as a DD Job in FFXIV when it's implemented.
    agreed. and the idea of a NINJA as a tank is pretty silly to begin with. They're supposed to be killers that go unseen. Why would they specialise in BEING SEEN???
    like I said above though, they could make a new job for PUG that would work well as a tank. Their "shadows" could just be 100% eva chance and it would be a good way to make counter actually useful.

    SAM could be a tank, but I iimagine it would be very similar to warrior in play style
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    Dante Goldenpaws
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    NIN in FFXI was never intended to be a tank, they were meant to be a DD/enfeebling Job - Utsusemi was designed simply as a 'get-out-of-jail-free card' if they pulled too much hate. Of course, players being how they are, had other ideas and realized they could abuse it by using it for tanking, despite NIN having all the defense of a wet paper bag, as the only other way they can avoid attacks was with high evasion. Also they had no native hate-generating abilities and even with WAR subbed for Provoke often struggled to hold hate properly.

    Only later did SE buckle to player demands and gave NIN it's own hate-generating abilities, but it was still a glass cannon once it's shadows went down, not to mention a lot of enemies ate through shadows like they weren't even there. Hence why I seriously hope SE doesn't repeat this nonsense and keeps NIN as a DD Job in FFXIV when it's implemented.

    Something I honestly wish they'd NEVER done. They should have instead made shuriken more accessible and buffed elemental ninjutsu, and made WAR & MNK stronger tanks instead of just giving NIN tank gear.
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