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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    What about this one:
    Allagan weapon
    Melee feet and legs
    Allagan head/body/hands/waist, choker+ears+bracelet of maiming, ring of maiming+striking

    This gives me 458 acc, 501crit, +99dtr and +32SS.
    With lava toad legs food, I get to 458+13=471 acc and 501+9crit.
    That a bonus of 15dtr vs loss of 2acc and 6 crit.
    If using lava toad legs which gives 13 accuracy. then instead of needing 131 acc from equipment when using allagan weapon you'll only need 118 acc from equipment.

    with allagan weapon, 118 acc, DTR .23, CRIT .17, SS .13 weights I get:

    Allagan weapon
    Doesn't matter: Boots
    Melee/Hero: head, legs, bracelet, neck
    Allagan: waist, chest, gloves, earrings striking, both rings

    which is...
    476 acc (4 over), 517 crit, +84 det, +32 ss
    then +9 crit from lava toad legs so 526 crit total.

    in this case you reach your accuracy cap, you have an additional +16 crit, but it's -15 det.

    Though I think your set might win out on dps since it does forgo the minimum accuracy requirement being short 1-2 accuracy might not be too bad if you're gaining 15 determination. the thing with my solver though is it has a constraint where it must reach that accuracy cap.
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    Isn't the accuracy cap for turn 5, 482? Or rather these caps are all bs since I've also been hearing lots of different numbers(for melee dds ofc)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zigkid3 View Post
    If using lava toad legs which gives 13 accuracy. then instead of needing 131 acc from equipment when using allagan weapon you'll only need 118 acc from equipment.
    You have to be careful; food gives you stats based off your total accuracy. So just assuming you get 13 accuracy might end up screwing it over. Going with 341+118=459 accuracy makes lava toad legs give you 13,77 acc. So in this case it's correct, but we're already close to getting 14 acc from it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zigkid3 View Post
    Though I think your set might win out on dps since it does forgo the minimum accuracy requirement being short 1-2 accuracy might not be too bad if you're gaining 15 determination. the thing with my solver though is it has a constraint where it must reach that accuracy cap.
    That's what I was aiming for, yes. I did hear that turn5 needs a higher cap though, so I planned to switch to Hero's bracelet for that., which would make me lose 11 crit but gain 11 acc, ending up with 458+11=469+14=483acc. Still +99 det though!
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    Last edited by Soukyuu; 11-10-2013 at 06:55 AM.

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    though if i set my solver to be more lax on the min. acc. requirement like you did I can get...
    weapon: allagan
    Either: Boots
    Allagan: chest, gloves, belt, choker of maiming, earrings of striking, bracelets of maiming, both rings
    melee/hero: head, legs

    for 457 acc +13 from toad leg = 470 accuracy (only 2 under)
    crit 523 +9 from toad legs = 532 crit
    84 det
    32 ss

    which would be -1 acc, +22 crit, -15 det compared to yours.
    since i was using the weights of .23 Det > .17 Crit, overall in raw numbers my set compared to yours would be a [+22crit(.17)]-[15det(.23)]= 3.74-3.45= +0.29 better optimally, but this is also because it's one accuracy less as well. So i would say it's so slim and nearly unnoticeable.

    Basically 2 accuracy under the cap but +8 more crit if i forgo accuracy compared to my previous set i listed.

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    If I try having exactly 458+13=371 acc as you did to have an equal amount of acc, i get...

    Either: Boots, earrings of maiming or hero's earrings (same stats)
    melee/hero: legs
    Allagan: waist, chest, head, gloves, choker of maiming, bracelet of maiming, both rings

    for 458+13= 471 acc
    501+9 crit = 510 crit
    +99 det
    +32 ss

    Using same accuracy as you my solver got the same exact stats as you did using the same gear choices :P
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    Last edited by Zigkid3; 11-10-2013 at 11:51 AM.

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    So I'd need to get some info on what the accuracy caps are per turn? In order to plan out gear that is...
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  6. #56
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    I think 472 for most of it but 482 by turn 5.
    if so then you'll probably need to have a 472 acc relic+1 set until you get up to T5 and get allagan weapon and shift over to an allagan weapon 482 acc set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zigkid3 View Post
    Using same accuracy as you my solver got the same exact stats as you did using the same gear choices :P
    Good :P
    Though I don't like the melee part of the set visually... vanity slots can't come soon enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zigkid3 View Post
    I think 472 for most of it but 482 by turn 5.
    if so then you'll probably need to have a 472 acc relic+1 set until you get up to T5 and get allagan weapon and shift over to an allagan weapon 482 acc set.
    There is no point if you clear t5 when your accuracy was enough...
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    Right, I'm currently in the progress of getting my first Myth piece (apart from +1), which will be the chest (I don't see myself clearing T5 for a bit)
    I'm wonder which item I should get after that.
    I do have the Allagan Head already, (only allagan pice, been unlucky with loot drops)
    So which Myth piece should I go for after I get the chest?
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    The way I go about it is looking at what gives me more stats per tome. Depending on the final set you want to have, I think legs might be a good idea.
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