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  1. #11
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    Veera Aurora
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    L1 + R3 down = problem solved

    im PS3 and played as MNK and PLD while all AK SCH i have met shadow flare demon wall and i can see blacklines just fine
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by TetsuyaHikari View Post
    No, I'm not blind, but when you have a purple-ish/blue aura mixing with a similar color, it's not exactly easy to see the floor changing on you, lol.

    I'm sorry but that is a bad reason to not use one of your primary dps abilities on SCH. You do realize that demon wall has a very simple pattern right? You should always be preemptively standing in the right location anyways.. If SF is the reason you get hit by a move from demon wall you either just need more practice or you're bad in general and don't pay attention, I'd guess the first one because it's really not hard to avoid once you've done it a few times and memorize the pattern.
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    Sophie Kiri
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    Done it with SF, never got a prob, but just be careful.
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  4. #14
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    Celes Reinhardt
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaruWhitehelm View Post
    Shoulder button + camera stick down. the difficulty is unfathomable.
    When you've never done that before during a battle, yes, the difficulty can be "unfathomable".

    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorPepper View Post
    I'm sorry but that is a bad reason to not use one of your primary dps abilities on SCH. You do realize that demon wall has a very simple pattern right? You should always be preemptively standing in the right location anyways.. If SF is the reason you get hit by a move from demon wall you either just need more practice or you're bad in general and don't pay attention, I'd guess the first one because it's really not hard to avoid once you've done it a few times and memorize the pattern.
    You do realize that despite his attack pattern being heavily choreographed, not everyone knows the precise second of when he will execute his actions, right? I've run AK over 100 times and have full DL gear, plus a relic +1 on my DRG, and I even got my Wyrm mail last week, so please don't try and make it seem like I don't know what I'm doing here. I certainly don't need practice. I just simply can't see the attack when Shadow Flare is on the ground.

    Nothing more, nothing less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    If you are EVER in the middle of the arena for more than .02 seconds and DW isn't using Repel, you're doing it wrong.
    Ummm... I'm never in the middle before repel. For whatever reason, I always go to the left side of the wall and attack from there. I'm not sure why, but I've never actually fought him from my right side, lol.
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    Last edited by TetsuyaHikari; 11-10-2013 at 06:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    If you are EVER in the middle of the arena for more than .02 seconds and DW isn't using Repel, you're doing it wrong.
    ... I tank in the middle the entire time unless we end up having to deal with adds. I like to dance, tyvm.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by TetsuyaHikari View Post
    You do realize that despite his attack pattern being heavily choreographed, not everyone knows the precise second of when he will execute his actions, right? I've run AK over 100 times and have full DL gear, plus a relic +1 on my DRG, and I even got my Wyrm mail last week, so please don't try and make it seem like I don't know what I'm doing here. I certainly don't need practice. I just simply can't see the attack when Shadow Flare is on the ground.

    Nothing more, nothing less.
    The thing is you don't need to know the precise second he uses the attack.. there is lots of time to move, unless your camera is fully zoomed in you can see the lines extend past SF and get several seconds after they appear before the move goes off. If you have done AK over 100 times and still can't dodge that ability then I really don't know what else to say to you and think you might be just seeking attention here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TetsuyaHikari View Post
    No, I'm not blind, but when you have a purple-ish/blue aura mixing with a similar color, it's not exactly easy to see the floor changing on you, lol.
    You should know the fight well enough by now to not even need to look at the floor.
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  8. #18
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    Iec Erynt
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    If a SCH is not shadow-flaring the wall, I don't like them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TetsuyaHikari View Post
    I certainly don't need practice.
    But you do, because if you really did it "over 100 times" like you claim, you could kill it with 50 shadow flares all over the entire room.

    As others have said, zooming out the camera IS the solution. Shadow flare isn't so big that you won't be able to see the void zone on the ground behind it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorPepper View Post
    The thing is you don't need to know the precise second he uses the attack.. there is lots of time to move, unless your camera is fully zoomed in you can see the lines extend past SF and get several seconds after they appear before the move goes off. If you have done AK over 100 times and still can't dodge that ability then I really don't know what else to say to you and think you might be just seeking attention here.
    But I can dodge the ability, lol. I just can't dodge it if I can't see it. Imagine being a DPS during the Ifrit or Titan HM fight and people expecting you to dodge plumes without seeing them, despite them being so easy to dodge. That's how I feel when a Scholar plants a Shadow Flare right in front of the wall and I'm unable to see the floor change color.

    I don't know what else to tell ya, man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch View Post
    But you do, because if you really did it "over 100 times" like you claim, you could kill it with 50 shadow flares all over the entire room.

    As others have said, zooming out the camera IS the solution. Shadow flare isn't so big that you won't be able to see the void zone on the ground behind it.
    Lol no. I don't. Just because a fight may be easy doesn't mean you can do it blindly.

    Tell ya what... Since you're such an expert, fight Demon Wall with a blindfold on. Yeah, that's what I thought. My experience has nothing to do with this issue.
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