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  1. #31
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    Solduios's Avatar
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    Selrea Mandragoran
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Phreak View Post
    Sounds more like you're an over healing monster and as such you enjoy the large health pool of a WAR because it makes your poor play seem less poor. PLD and WAR have the SAME base eHP without CDs so anything along the lines of 'larger HP = less chance of dying' is merely an illusion. A 3000 hit is just as lethal to a PLD as it is a WAR the difference is you are spending more MP to top the WAR off before the next hit vs. the PLD.
    Lets assume both pld and war cd's are down and both get hit for 3k dmg ... PLD has roughly 5800 hp and war sitting on 7400 hp. Now from my observation as a healer both classes take about the same damage w/o cool downs 5800 - 3000= 2800 left on pld 7400- 3000= 4400 + IB = 5400 hp. This is purely off observation as a sch healing... and yes I feel sch synergies better with warrior than pld but also my own observation.
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  2. #32
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    Colin Chulainn
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Solduios View Post
    Lets assume both pld and war cd's are down and both get hit for 3k dmg ... PLD has roughly 5800 hp and war sitting on 7400 hp.
    If a PLD was at 5800 HP then a WAR of equal gear level would have 7250

    Quote Originally Posted by Solduios View Post
    Now from my observation as a healer both classes take about the same damage w/o cool downs
    PLDs have a passive 20% reduction in damage at all times with Shield Oath active. (it's a stance, not a cooldown, just like the WAR's Defiance)

    The WAR is getting hit for 3000, the PLD is getting hit for 2400.
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    Last edited by Phreak; 11-10-2013 at 12:36 AM.

  3. #33
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    Yagrush Dire
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 80
    ^ That's where the healing bonus kicks in and equalizes the situation.
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  4. #34
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    Gil Witten
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    Exodus
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChriskoOnAnotherLevel View Post
    Sorry, but you are full of shit, and with you having pld in addition to war, you are doing nothing but misleading those foolish enough to believe you.
    Pls stop quoting him, I can still see his garbage when you do, thanks.
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  5. #35
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    Colin Chulainn
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    Blacksmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Yagrush View Post
    ^ That's where the healing bonus kicks in and equalizes the situation.
    The +15% healing taken does not equalize anything, it would have to be 25%.

    WAR takes a 3000 damage hit, assuming a best case +15% healing taken it takes about 2600 in base healing to top the warrior off.

    PLD takes a 3000 damage hit, lower it by 20% due to shield oath, the PLD ends up only taking 2400 damage and requires 2400 base healing to be topped off.
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  6. #36
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    Paikis Pryslack
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    Coeurl
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    Dark Knight Lv 73
    Quote Originally Posted by Phreak View Post
    The +15% healing taken does not equalize anything, it would have to be 25%.

    WAR takes a 3000 damage hit, assuming a best case +15% healing taken it takes about 2600 in base healing to top the warrior off.

    PLD takes a 3000 damage hit, lower it by 20% due to shield oath, the PLD ends up only taking 2400 damage and requires 2400 base healing to be topped off.
    The number of fights in the game with an attack big enough for the Warrior to require an extra heal to be cast based on this difference is exactly one. Twintania.

    The difference is Hallowed Ground, the rest is just a rounding error in your healer's overhealing.
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  7. #37
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    Kainz Highwind
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    The best advise I can give you is to equip your paladin soul gem
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fersaken View Post
    The best advise I can give you is to equip your paladin soul gem
    You're cute, I hope you are proud on your clever little commnet. It's not like everybody else has said this before thinking their clever.
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  9. #39
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    Selrea Mandragoran
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Phreak View Post
    The +15% healing taken does not equalize anything, it would have to be 25%.

    WAR takes a 3000 damage hit, assuming a best case +15% healing taken it takes about 2600 in base healing to top the warrior off.

    PLD takes a 3000 damage hit, lower it by 20% due to shield oath, the PLD ends up only taking 2400 damage and requires 2400 base healing to be topped off.

    IDC what math says as healer I see very little difference in healing the 2 classes if both dont have cool downs.
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    Kim Taeyeon
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Just. Pop. Your. Every. Single. CD. After it reaches 4 stacks
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