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  1. #21
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    mcnuggetz's Avatar
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    Gannon Hellfire
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    Goblin
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuujinZERO View Post
    Just a public service announcement for the tanks out there.

    *snip*



    - Signed: A tired-of-this-bullshit Dragoon (also scholar and warrior)
    Bro, I've tanked in almost every MMO that has come out to this date. Its never easy. I take on the role of the leader. And as a leader I don't like having my troops telling me what to do. Yeah its dickish, but it has to been done. I can dps to, its not hard. All you have do to kill stuff. So don't come to our forums and tells us about a crap tank that made you die. Go whine about on the dps forums. Because if you were a tank you'd know better then to come here and bitch.

    Sincerely

    You're Tank.
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  2. #22
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    Delorean's Avatar
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    Altani Dotharl
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    Diabolos
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    Marauder Lv 60
    i have 8k hp

    i'll tank mobs with tonberrys shanking me if i want to

    u just shut your heathen mouth and kill things for me ok =D

    jk

    I'm still a relatively young tank but its funny, when I'm in one group the healer complains that I break his sleep and I shouldn't use overpower, in the next group I cop flack on the first, yes the first pull because I did not overpower enough.

    The greatest skill a tank must learn is patience.
    i disagree vehemently

    in this case

    just keep breaking their sleeps anyway so that they will figure out what they are doing is pointless

    Most of the heavy damage pulls in this game cannot be slept anyway. The only one I can think of is the one in Stone Vigil with the Dragon Aevis x2 (potentially 3, or is it 3?) + 3x Ice Elementals, and you can just run circles around the elementals to avoid taking damage from them.

    and I mean we aren't talking about sleeping because someone accidentally pulled extra or because the tank cant hold aggro, we're talking about when there are 3 or 4 enemies and the healer is sleeping all targets but the active target. in lower level dungeons there have been times where i have taken spikes in damage that have almost killed me because a healer was sleeping something instead of healing me.

    theres not really much of a reason to sleep targets if you ask me
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    Last edited by Delorean; 11-09-2013 at 07:33 PM.

  3. #23
    Player Fersaken's Avatar
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    Kainz Highwind
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Seriously?

    A tank is the number one make or break for a group. If heals sucks a well geared tank can endure, if dps sucks a well geared tank will endure. If everyone dies and the tank is the last one left standing he possibly could endure.

    Honestly you don't like how I do something? I hope you enjoy the re-Q, this is my group. If more than you don't like me in the group, then I can afk until one of you guys decided to leave.

    My job is simple so I yours. You do it well and we won't have a problem, do it poorly we will its that simple.
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  4. #24
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    Viridiana's Avatar
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by mcnuggetz View Post
    Bro, I've tanked in almost every MMO that has come out to this date. Its never easy. I take on the role of the leader. And as a leader I don't like having my troops telling me what to do. Yeah its dickish, but it has to been done.
    If you're doing stuff that I know for certain is going to get us both killed, I'm going to call you on it. It has to be done.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fersaken View Post
    Honestly you don't like how I do something? I hope you enjoy the re-Q, this is my group. If more than you don't like me in the group, then I can afk until one of you guys decided to leave.
    The OP's talking about a tank essentially suiciding, then complaining when the DD tells him to stop suiciding. I should hope you're mature enough to realize that the tank in the OP is pretty much in the wrong.
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  5. #25
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    Asdamine's Avatar
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    Lea Sahaquiel
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    Lancer Lv 50
    There are two types of talk I have faced in a dungeon: #1 Telling me how to play a tank; #2 How to play the dungeon.

    I fully welcome the latter since I may have cleared most dungeons in the game but it does not make me all knowing.

    However, I simply cannot tollerate people telling me how to play my tank. If I missed something, sure. But if you tell me "Oh, use your Halone combo"; well, NO SHIT!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fersaken View Post
    Seriously?

    A tank is the number one make or break for a group. If heals sucks a well geared tank can endure, if dps sucks a well geared tank will endure. If everyone dies and the tank is the last one left standing he possibly could endure.

    Honestly you don't like how I do something? I hope you enjoy the re-Q, this is my group. If more than you don't like me in the group, then I can afk until one of you guys decided to leave.

    My job is simple so I yours. You do it well and we won't have a problem, do it poorly we will its that simple.
    ^ You are the man, wholeheartedly agree.
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  6. #26
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    Avalon_Albrook's Avatar
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    Avalon Albrook
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by mcnuggetz View Post
    Because if you were a tank you'd know better then to come here and bitch.
    He said bitchily.
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  7. #27
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    Amyas's Avatar
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    Amyas Leigh
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    Ragnarok
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    Armorer Lv 50
    Honestly, I avoid giving advice generally to anyone for just this reason of them flipping out (save for fc mates, then I go all out rather objectively because they know I'm not being a d*** for the sake of being one), though when I do I always try to be reallllly polite and supportive: 'maybe we should try saving our defensive abilities when we are engaged with the boss rather than five seconds before you pull...?'

    On a flip side, some people really suck at 'giving advice'. Going through AK, I was told by a dl/relic+1 pld that 'we wouldn't have enough dps for the wall' after the first boss because I only had heavy thrust up 70% of the time rather than 100%. (lol right? I was in nearly all darklight with the mog fork too, so it wasn't a gear thing) It was my second or third time doing AK as dragoon, as I normally main war but needed AK for drg's relic. We beat it, but we did wipe a couple times due to a new whm. The guy even threatened to leave because of that, even though he let himself get hit by imminent catastrophe several times.(not the reason we wiped, but still, don't crap on other people when you're not so good yourself)
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    Last edited by Amyas; 11-10-2013 at 10:47 AM.

  8. #28
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    Vamp007's Avatar
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    Vamp Thelast
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    Malboro
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    Marauder Lv 60
    lol i am PLD 50 and WAR 50 and i was tank in many mmo
    but.... guys.... guys tanking here is sooooo esay and
    BTW
    heals job do more then tank lot more...!
    DPS job have to do allot things like damage + doge skills + stun or silent +.. +... +.....

    and tank only there just useing some skills ;/ soooooo esay
    this game not like ffxi there you can say: TANK is the best in the list....
    here in FFXIV .... just doing thing all you have to do is -----> do it good
    i do all thing in this game last was coil and DPS + helas job's do more then me

    and about advice... if i am doing bad ... its ok if someone better then me tell me what to do why i go angry? lol if he not know what he saying then kick him out the party or-----> BL if cant lol ^^
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    Last edited by Vamp007; 11-10-2013 at 08:24 PM.

  9. #29
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    Gandora's Avatar
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    Cerulean Knight
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuujinZERO View Post
    Just a public service announcement for the tanks out there. > Snip
    Hi to you, who think you are a smartass. Let me tell you why I call most of the DPS I run with "stupid & idiot."

    As you said you were a WAR, there is nothing more annoying than a stupid DPS who will start attacking during your pull, for the sake of his big number that no one care about.
    Because when the said DPS does that, he interupt the whole process of safe pulling, forcing you to run back to the attacked mob, claim back the enmity, run back to the fighting point, during that time your healer will try to cure the persons who take hit & will claim enmity over mobs that were not even attacked in the first place, forcing you to run after theses mobs too.

    Its even more annoying when they start bitching at you for not being able to hold hate, of monsters you did not hit in the first place, because you are making a train of mobs until you reach that safe spot.
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  10. #30
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    Gandora's Avatar
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    Cerulean Knight
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 50

    Anyway why do ppl expect speed runs from Duty Finder, its DF, not your friends group!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandora View Post
    skip
    During all of this event, your tank take somes damage, as well as the others, while the healer will struggle to vkeep everyone alive.

    So many time I end up with DDs who think they are the shit because they have a relic+1 & full DL, but who doesn't know a thing when it come to Tank mechanics, which is sad when they get a tank @ 50.

    Can you tell me, what is the point of interupting the pulls of a tank? If its not to be an idiot? Not everyone feel comfortable with Speed runs, and ever less when a DD alow himself to screw the Tank atempt to do it right.

    This is what make the difference betwin a good & a bad DD.

    Good DD: will let you establish a good level of enmity to make safe damage bursts.
    Bad DD: He wont care & attack whenever he feel like it, taking the risk to screw up everything.

    Its just a matter of secondes, which turn into a 5+ mins waste because of the DDs in most situations.
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