If there were no FATEs

[HamHam]

I think fates are badly designed. There are fates that is just kill x amount of monsters and no meaning behind about why are we killing those say monsters. Where as there are fates that you can see have a meaning behind or a purpose for them. Such as NPC being kidnapped or part of a zone getting taken away by a bunch of raiders or fight an NM.

The fates need to have meaning, soul behind them. Not the mindless grind that most of them are.

[Noahlimits]

I think the fates are badly designed. There are fates that is just kill x amount of monsters and no meaning behind about why are we killing those say monsters. Where as there are fates that you can see have a meaning behind or a purpose for them. Such as NPC being kidnapped or part of a zone getting taken away by a bunch of raiders or fight an NM.

The fates need to have meaning, soul behind them. Not the mindless grind that most of them are.

That's not what I'm asking with this thread though. I'm wondering why you think the game would be like if they had never existed (for the better or for worse).

[Jermz]

Without them, there would be one less way to get XP, and i really feel people would be doing more hunting logs, dungeons, perhaps farm groups in particular parts of the world with AEs (similar to standing in the Mines in Northern Thanalan while fate grinding/waiting for Dark Devices. I think Dungeons would be a higher priority as they would be the big XP makers after Hunting logs are exhausted. I think the rest of the world would be a bit more populated....
I also think if fates hadn't have been added they would have made quests repeatable by class. If there were no fates, the lack of questing for alts would lead to only dungeons, hunting log, AOE farming. Might have even been Experience Camps!!

[Noahlimits]

Might have even been Experience Camps!!

Man, I miss EXP parties / camps. :3

Do you all thing the community overall would be better since parties would almost be mandatory for leveling? Or would most players still be jerks?

[PSxpert2011]

The fates need to have meaning, soul behind them. Not the mindless grind that most of them are.

One word: Campaign!!!!!!!!!

Bring the campaign system back.

FATEs in general was designed around NMs and the soul purpose of sharing the fight(and possibly a drop) with those who participated. This is back-firing with the masses wanting to take part in killing HNMs like Odin and Behemoth or Hydra.

If FATEs are going to be so bland, add challenge to them(and balance). FATEs need to last longer and they need to pose a challenge. There's NOTHING memorable about a FATE atm.

Man, I miss EXP parties / camps. :3

Do you all thing the community overall would be better since parties would almost be mandatory for leveling? Or would most players still be jerks?

Yeah, me too. A place where people can log in and kill(or be killed,lol) to gain seals and/or exp. A camp to hang out and talk sh!t and laugh, then plan the next move. So far I like the GC system and all the stuff we can get through GCs. With almost all classes to 50, i care about gaining seals.