How to tank 10-12 minute WPSR's! (Youtube video)

[Delorean]

Time is Time is Time and yes, to some, saving 2-5 mins matters (which can be upwards of a >33%< reduction in completion time, how is that something you just dismiss?)

How does 2-5 minutes make a difference? Will the sky fall if a WP run is 15 minutes long and not 10 minutes long?

For most people WAR can speed run well and it is just as good as PLD assuming that your goal is just to run a dungeon quickly and not set a record time.

But again, not something I'd suggest to another player attempt without relic and at least a few pieces of myth gear.

[Mister-Wonderful]

Foe Requiem is also much better for the fighting than ballad, 10% more damage on your BLM and no damage reduction from ballad as well, bard can just do ballad at the end of pulls or after running out of tp to get your mp back, Tank can easily spam fastblade> riot blade for mp back during kills and will have easily enough for the next pull. To make it easier without ballad try to flash only the big groups of mobs on the way to pulls, and by using sprint as early as you can you will easily have enough TP for a shield lob on the stragglers like the single tonberries for example, instead of having to waste a flash on 1 mob, thereby saving a bunch of mp for when everything is gathered so you can spam for longer before needing riot blade(And don't waste Circle of scorn on 3 mobs...save that for the full group). Having ballad during pulls is why you need ballad during pulls, you wouldn't need it if you had Foe requiem instead and good mp management on the way.

Another thing, Shield oath is really not necessary for boss fights except maybe the last half of tonberry king, as emnity is non issue and all the bosses hit like wimps and besides tonberry king with a few stacks. Goobue and Slime spend half the fight targeting someone else. Sword oath is much better.

I also just noticed something watching it again, why are you using flash on bosses...Flashing the slime adds I understand (which isn't needed either since they are weak, a couple holy's takes them out)You do solid damage especially with sword oath and generate a ton of hate with combos, you don't need to waste mp and time on flashing bosses. I have never lost hate on a boss with sword oath up doing 9 min runs, I'd imagine it would be even easier to hold hate with shield oath up. You also would then never have to wait for mp after you kill a boss, allowing the bard to do swiftsong to help him keep up with the group (since mages can spend Sprint anytime as they have no TP concerns, bard cannot do this) and can freely foe requiem again at the next pull, improving overall run speed drastically.

And yet another thing, you never once dodged fire against the slime boss, if you dodge fire by running through him to cancel his cast, your whm can focus on DPS as well, making the bosses quicker.

This video is informative and helpful for people starting to run WPSR's, but can be improved upon greatly.

[Phreak]

You can also pull the 2 tonberries in front of the slime boss door without pulling the casters to the left and then have those 2 casters + the caster and skeleton chase/get locked out.

Hollowed ground can also be used twice, once during the first large pull and then again where you used it which allows for the heal to spam holy even more.

@Mister
He probably flashes the boss to blind them and as to why he said to flash the slime boss at the start to pull off the DPS that pulled probably just for the sake of being lazy, doesn't have to spend time initially targeting the boss to pull it off. (and snap target in this game is absolutely dreadful)

Shield Oath doesn't reduce the damage from Everybody's Grudge so you can roll sword oath on all the bosses.

[Mister-Wonderful]

You can also pull the 2 tonberries in front of the slime boss door without pulling the casters to the left and then have those 2 casters + the caster and skeleton chase/get locked out.

Hollowed ground can also be used twice, once during the first large pull and then again where you used it which allows for the heal to spam holy even more.

@Mister
He probably flashes the boss to blind them and as to why he said to flash the slime boss at the start to pull off the DPS that pulled probably just for the sake of being lazy, doesn't have to spend time initially targeting the boss to pull it off. (and snap target in this game is absolutely dreadful)

Shield Oath doesn't reduce the damage from Everybody's Grudge so you can roll sword oath on all the bosses.

Yeah I use shield oath on last half of ton king just to take less damage on the little babies, we often ignore the baby tonberries and just kill the king. Had forgotten about grudge ignoring oath

[Phreak]

Yeah I use shield oath on last half of ton king just to take less damage on the little babies, we often ignore the baby tonberries and just kill the king. Had forgotten about grudge ignoring oath

Aah right good point, what a lot of people forget is that it's the hit(s) before and after the 'big hit' that usually spells doom for the tank.

[Gamemako]

Can be done as warrior, exactly same pulls: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRD-abqneEY

Yeah, it can be done, just not nearly as quickly. The PLD/WHM/BLM/BRD setup is going to be the quickest by far. The WAR/SCH/SMN/DRG reject group can finish in ~13 minutes or so, more than 50% longer to do it, but they'll finish.

[Ervin]

I dont see the point in speedruns when a normal run takes no more than 3-4 minutes extra. Sure if you're a dps looking for a group in chat it might be faster for you compared to signing up as a DF dps, but as a tank it's pointless really. By the time the group is setup and ready I've already lost those 3-4 minutes to get the "perfect" group.

Depending on the two PuGs me and my friend gets it takes between 15-20 mins per WP. We play as WAR+BRD or BLM+PLD depending whos in the mood for tanking.

[Velev]

Very helpful. Great job.

Totally agree, thank you Op for the post and sharing !

[ZeusLaser]

I agree that the video can be improved upon. I just made a simple guide to help beginner tanks to understand how the WPSR's work.

Thank you for your feedback.

[Mister-Wonderful]

I agree that the video can be improved upon. I just made a simple guide to help beginner tanks to understand how the WPSR's work.

Thank you for your feedback.

Thank you for posting it, it will help a lot of tanks get a feel for WPSR's. I just thought I'd throw in some things that I do, sorry if it came across a bit rude.