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  1. #591
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    Soukyuu's Avatar
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    Crim Soukyuu
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    Quote Originally Posted by AegisXI View Post
    They need to fix Perfect Balance... Happens a lot when I use PB it doesnt activate and its on cool down
    It's not only PB, I've had this happen with Aetherflow, BfB, Bliz3 not giving stacks of umbral ice, etc. Seems to have started happening recently, especially at peak times.
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  2. #592
    Player Rochetm's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    It's not only PB, I've had this happen with Aetherflow, BfB, Bliz3 not giving stacks of umbral ice, etc. Seems to have started happening recently, especially at peak times.
    Blood for blood seems to be the one ability that loves to act up on me. Sometimes I sit and spam it and it never goes off... never know why that one does it so much.
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  3. #593
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    Not going off is because you can't use it while you are in an animation. They basically removed the movement animation lock, but skill execution seems to be still affected. So being off gcd is pretty relative. You basically can weave it in at around half of your GCD.

    What AegisXI meant is skill going off but NOT granting you the effect.
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  4. #594
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    Neo Anderson
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    MNK real need some good aoe skill. MNK aoe skill not only drains too much TP but also do too less Dmg.
    MNK total DPS is never close to a good BLM in Turn4. Two flare in sec need monk 1 min DPS to catch up.
    Good Blm and bad Blm has 50% total DPS difference from my parser log. That's why we never seen lf MNK for WP but LF BLM and BRD all the times.
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  5. #595
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    Noctis Umbra
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    Quote Originally Posted by neoreturn View Post
    MNK real need some good aoe skill. MNK aoe skill not only drains too much TP but also do too less Dmg.
    MNK total DPS is never close to a good BLM in Turn4. Two flare in sec need monk 1 min DPS to catch up.
    Good Blm and bad Blm has 50% total DPS difference from my parser log. That's why we never seen lf MNK for WP but LF BLM and BRD all the times.
    Again, every job can't just be good at everything. Rockbreaker is actually quite strong.

    Sure, a BRD or BLM may be better at AoE (really just BLM since the BRD will run out of TP even faster than a MNK using Rockbreaker) but MNK is is the best when it comes to single target.

    Dreadnaughts in Turn 4 is a good example of where a MNK will shine.
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  6. #596
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    Tatsuya Nekomiya
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    or not ; blm still has more single target and aoe damage than us and good brd have also has more singletarget dps than us .....
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  7. #597
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    A'lyhhia Tahz
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    Again, every job can't just be good at everything. Rockbreaker is actually quite strong.

    Sure, a BRD or BLM may be better at AoE (really just BLM since the BRD will run out of TP even faster than a MNK using Rockbreaker) but MNK is is the best when it comes to single target.

    Dreadnaughts in Turn 4 is a good example of where a MNK will shine.
    Rockbreaker is definitely not to be underestimated... especially of you combine Blood for Blood and Perfect Balance to throw it out 5 times in succession at 156 Potency. I've participated in WP Speedruns with BRD or BLM being the other DPS and did just fine. Sure, the monsters didn't die quite as quickly, but the Tank wasn't dying either. Still quick, still happy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reyki View Post
    or not ; blm still has more single target and aoe damage than us and good brd have also has more singletarget dps than us .....
    No, they don't. Bard's do less damage hit for hit than a Monk at the top of her momentum and have a longer GCD, balanced by the fact that they can almost always be attacking. Additionally, its very arguable that a Bard is not being a "good" Bard unless she is singing something useful at all possible times. Black Mages are hampered by cast times and the complete inability to do much damage while moving. This is balanced by the fact that their spells hit hard.

    Monks, as mentioned before, are indisputable kings when it comes to sustained DPS on a powerful single target. Once we get going, it's completely possible to never lose DPS for any reason other than a CD Buff expiring. Of course, we can wreck even more with a high Skill Speed plus a Bard :P
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  8. #598
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reyki View Post
    or not ; blm still has more single target and aoe damage than us and good brd have also has more singletarget dps than us .....
    Get your facts straight. What concerns me more is that you appear to be a MNK main, too.

    BRD is the lowest single target DPS I believe. That is unless DRG is. One of the two. BRD is typically desired for AoE, songs and/or being a ranged class. BRD also happens to be the easiest job to play at 90%+ optimal performance. Grab a random BRD, check their gear and you more or less know what kind of DPS you're getting because it is actually difficult to play bad as a BRD lol.

    MNK as a job is clear single-target DPS king, and by quite a margin in fact. However, there are far fewer players able to harness this optimal play on MNK, which leads to a nasty rumor and/or misguided thought that MNKs suck lol.
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  9. #599
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    Tatsuya Nekomiya
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    have u ever been on conditions that allow u to focus on bossess and stay still without moving and losing ur gl3 ? no ... perhaps u can outdps brds on dummy and on paper ,but not in real conditions ......also , make test with equivalent gear on all classes and u'll see ...

    so , no , ull never be the king on singletargets dps in dungeons , and that untill the 2.1 ...

    the only fact is that our class need to be twicked a bit , but not that much too ...that to be the best singletarget DD.

    gl duration is fine , gl loss no , Perfect balance and Shoulder tacke CD need to be reduced and invigorate needs also to bring us more PT over time to allow us to dps in perfect conditions on long fights ( turn 4 and more in turn 5)

    So don't tell that our class is perfect as it is because it's untrue ...

    If SE will increase melee damage in 2.1 , it's not for nothing.
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    Last edited by Reyki; 11-08-2013 at 03:03 PM.
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  10. #600
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    Kit Tinkerton
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Any monk that is good is capable of as much uptime on a boss as possible, refreshing GL in time anticipating a fight mechanic, applying dots knowing that they will have to dodge, using shoulder tackle to get back into the fight, etc.

    They are really very strong in the right hands.
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