FFXIV: ARR becoming TORtanic

[Laf]

yet here you are... and what does that make you?

what's your favorite food?

[Chrysania]

The plans for 2.1 look...potentially promising, from my angle. Housing could be a great thing. I don't see much stated for addressing any core problems I perceive though, and that vexes me. Implementation is fact though. It all comes down to what they do, not what they say.

And so I remain and wait.

[Astarica]

The content availability is pointless to argue about because history shows western MMORPG players are very fickle. WoW had a long period of relatively no content but did fine, while other games died under similar circumstances. It's impossible to say with any confidence how this fickle playerbase will react to content (or lack there of) updates.

However, if anything's going to kill this game, it's going to be the technical problems. The world server and the instanced servers are still really lagged and seems to be getting worse over time, and of course there's the ever present server-based lag. No WoW or any other game was never this bad a month after launch unless you were on either the hamster-just-died server or the (really cool name) server, not to mention there's about 10 years for people to learn from the kind of problem you ought to expect dealing with servers.

[Taruranto]

The content availability is pointless to argue about because history shows western MMORPG players are very fickle. WoW had a long period of relatively no content but did fine, while other games died under similar circumstances. It's impossible to say with any confidence how this fickle playerbase will react to content (or lack there of) updates.

You can't compare "these" games to WoW. LOTRO, Terra, etc they all failed for failed for the same reasons: Theme Park mmorpg, ppl ran out of things to do in the few months due to the instant gratification unless you are WoW. (that turned into instant gratification mmorpg waaaay after it was launched)

Also ppl need to stop to use the >"B-but FFXI didn't have many things at launch either!!!", yeah, because FFXI could afford it. It came out in a era when mmorpg weren't widespread, Internet wasn't such widespread and it was released ON PS2 first. What kind of competition did he have?

[Hazanko]

To me I feel SE isn't really catering to the rest of the world only to it's own people. I mean come on and think about it. Japanese servers haven't had no where near the same amount of maintenanace as us NA/EU players have. When they do get around to us, they seem to like to leave us in the dark on what's going on with the game or with stuff to come, see how the video of 2.1 and housing crap didn't come out for a whole week after it aired there in Japan. So far they're doing a decent job on trying to hold subs, but lately all these Maintenance they keep throwing at us won't help in the long run, because it seems with every patch or down time we've recently gotten something else goes wrong or the current problems at hand still aren't fixed for many of the players.

I too hope SE gets their Head out their ass and steps the game up, cause much longer of this crap and they can say good bye to quite a bit of the subs

[Astarica]

You can't compare "these" games to WoW. LOTRO, Terra, etc they all failed for failed for the same reasons: Theme Park mmorpg, ppl ran out of things to do in the few months due to the instant gratification unless you are WoW.

But why didn't WoW die? Is it just that special? Sure it's easy to say 'more content > less content', but if that was all there is to it then WoW wouldn't be #1 either because there's definitely a period of time where WoW had no meaningful content update. I don't think FF14 will do fine if it just stands around doing nothing, but I'm not convinced that having a frantic pace of new content is going to change things around either. While players demand a ton of new stuff for their $15/month, the said players apparently had no problem with paying $15/month for nothing new in sight too. I'd be more concerned about the game's technical problems (server lag mostly) first.

[Randalthor]

Wow, this troll thread got to 28 pages. smh....

You people are unbelievable. Just ignore the guy. Here are some easy steps to follow:

1) Click on link
2) Read Post
3) Spend a few seconds determining whether the person is serious or is looking for attention (troll)
4) If serious, up to you to post or not
5) If troll, laugh out loud at the poor attempt to get a response and go to another thread

Simple. If you follow these easy steps, the trolls will go away. You are never going to win an argument against a troll. They want you to get riled up and spend time posting your rebuttal in order to get a rise.

Please, just ignore these morons, and they will eventually go to another game and ruin their community.

[HoroBoro]

1 month Necro by Chrysania. Content is no longer relevant. Please - let it die.

[Hazanko]

Yes at this point it really shouldn't be about content, it should be about SE stepping their game up and fixing the current problems at hand.
Yes I know we've had maintenance quite often, but for some reason or another SE refuses to communicate with its' community and has yet tell us if they plan on fixing anything or do they plan on continuing the consistent down times and have no "Updates"/"Hot-fixes" for us to view.
How hard is it really to say oh hey maintenance again (as usual...) this is what we plan on fixing, this is what we broke, this is still broken even after maintenance, so be prepared for 2-3 more maintenance down times this week....
I don't get how this game came out with early access (me being part of that early access with so many others) and all these bugs/problems every week seem to be popping up more and more.

[Baneus]

Wow, this troll thread got to 28 pages. smh....

You people are unbelievable. Just ignore the guy. Here are some easy steps to follow:

1) Click on link
2) Read Post
3) Spend a few seconds determining whether the person is serious or is looking for attention (troll)
4) If serious, up to you to post or not
5) If troll, laugh out loud at the poor attempt to get a response and go to another thread

Simple. If you follow these easy steps, the trolls will go away. You are never going to win an argument against a troll. They want you to get riled up and spend time posting your rebuttal in order to get a rise.

Please, just ignore these morons, and they will eventually go to another game and ruin their community.

To be precise -you will never win an argument on the Internet, because the "arguments" normally consist of two or more people spouting opinions at each other with no intention to change their stance. It's like television - entertaining, but the outcome won't change no matter how much you wish it would.