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  1. #71
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    reality_check's Avatar
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    Jesse Branford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evtrai View Post
    -My brother and I play on the same room, I can see both his screen and mine at the same time, and once we were playing on AK recently I noticed the huuuuge time it takes for his actions and mine to show up on both screens, for example, I moved from point A to point B and on his screen it would happen about 2 seconds later, while for some reason his movements appeared reflected on my screen nearly on real time, mind you same exact connection, same CPU, Motherboard same everything with the exception of video card, he has a GTX Titan and I have a R9 280x, so it really doesn't make sense.
    But I can dodge Titan plumes because of my amazing skills that allow me to move before the plumes drop so everything your saying has to be working as intended.
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  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baneus View Post
    Is there actually a way to get the camera to zoom out further than the UI default?

    And on topic, the additional 200-300ms ping I get makes getting out of any circular shaped damage ability an absolute crapshoot unless I'm almost at the edge to start with (slugs for instance, I still get hit roughly 50% of the time even if I'm already moving away when the cast bar starts and appear to be at almost max casting range to the target on my caster classes).
    I definitely agree with this. On a related note, every time I see the first boss in WP cast that circular attack that does the reduced immunity damage/effect, I already start casting Esuna on the player. Most of the time, that player simply can't get out of it in time. Either the circle is too wide or the timer is too short, but that attack is unforgiving. Any healer who's run that enough times can vouch for the imbalance in doge:not-dodged ratio there.
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  3. #73
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    Nine Sunz
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    Quote Originally Posted by coffeepotz View Post
    Honestly, I hear about people with these problems in Titan yet I can dodge plumes every time. I don't move until the AOE appears. What is so special about my connection? I have typical "High Speed" internet. I live in LA, playing on NA servers. Never have these problems. Ever.

    I don't think you guys are lying, I just don't understand why everyone experiences this but me. Did I win the FFXIV lottery or something?

    HOPS

    You don't need massive bandwidth to play ffxiv smoothly, you just need a stable connection, and i don't mean stable to your ISP, stable all the way to ffxiv's server.
    The issue is, and some don't realize, that the data from your pc to ffxiv servers don't just go through your ISP, the data gets passed along from your ISP to backbone carriers to other IPS etc etc. Each of those hand offs have to be stable, one packet drop and you and ffxiv's server aren't seeing eye to eye.

    If everyone with Titan lag issue would do a constant trace route to their ffxiv server
    they would find a hop that's dropping their packets, might even be multiple places that's doing it

    and if you find that your route is completely stable and you're still getting lag?
    Well my friend that would be your computer's own latency.
    The minimal sys req that ffxiv gives doesn't quite cut it.
    Case in point I have 2 systems:
    1- i7 gtx660 ssd
    2 -athlon hd6790 ssd and old lcd (5+ years old)

    on the same network, wired gigabit
    system 1 flawless I fought titan for the first time on this system without knowing patterns, i just followed ppl and dodged stuff, no issues (win too!)
    system 2 constant issues with titan, always .5+ second lag, plumes always the plumes!

    system 2 upgraded gfx card and monitor, wow look at that no more lag. i can prance around titan all day!

    so in closing,
    it's probably not your fault
    it's probably not your ISP's fault
    it's probably not SE's fault, because if it was lag on SE's severs wouldn't EVERYONE have an issue?
    it's probably a provider's fault throttling your connection or dropping your packets

    what to do to fix it?
    simply, i don't know. call and hound the isp that's dropping your packets? call and hound your isp to hound the isp that's dropping your packets? write your congressmen? flame the isp that's dropping your packets on every social media outlet you know?

    in any case, i wish all the ppl with lag issues the best of luck. I know i'd be uber pissed if i were playing this game with horrid lag and Titan kept murdering me to the ground
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  4. #74
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    MasamuneBranford's Avatar
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    It's the ISP. Notice how all the other players are skipping around? The problem with FF14, is that the minimum internet speed requirement is too low. The problem is that the player's ISP isn't downloading the information fast enough. I had that happen once before too and I had to reset my router and then it ran flawlessly again. My friend has horrible ISP and other players are always skipping around and he experiences constant lag. To play FF14 right, you need at least 18 MPS internet however the game will allow much lower.

    Trust me - the minimum internet speed requirements are set too low. For those complaining about lag - you're lucky you can even log in. Other characters should not be skipping around (they should be moving fluid). If you are seeing players move around, it's your own internet.
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  5. #75
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    Olan Durai
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    Midgardsormr
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    If you're simply permanently 1 second behind the server, some players are still good enough to dodge stuff. That doesn't mean it should be normal to expect to be permanently 1 second lagged. In FF14 you're about 0.3-0.6s permanently lagged depending on how good you're at memorization, but this is still an unacceptable range of lag for a modern MMORPG. Now if you only have to work with a 0.3s handicap you ought to be able to dodge everything if you're relatively decent, but even then there's no reason to put up with this kind of unreasonable lag that does not exist in any other game.
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasamuneBranford View Post
    It's the ISP. Notice how all the other players are skipping around? The problem with FF14, is that the minimum internet speed requirement is too low. The problem is that the player's ISP isn't downloading the information fast enough. I had that happen once before too and I had to reset my router and then it ran flawlessly again. My friend has horrible ISP and other players are always skipping around and he experiences constant lag. To play FF14 right, you need at least 18 MPS internet however the game will allow much lower.

    Trust me - the minimum internet speed requirements are set too low. For those complaining about lag - you're lucky you can even log in. Other characters should not be skipping around (they should be moving fluid). If you are seeing players move around, it's your own internet.
    God, I can't even... the stupidity is astounding.
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  7. #77
    Player TeganLaron's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magiseanzz View Post
    On a related note, every time I see the first boss in WP cast that circular attack that does the reduced immunity damage/effect, I already start casting Esuna on the player. Most of the time, that player simply can't get out of it in time. Either the circle is too wide or the timer is too short, but that attack is unforgiving. Any healer who's run that enough times can vouch for the imbalance in doge:not-dodged ratio there.
    Yep, I've noticed this too. I used to wonder why the hell no one would ever dodge it as I'd be Esuna-ing them every battle, then it finally did it to me and I saw there is just no dodging it. I'd say this one is actually probably worse than Titan, it's just that nobody cares as it is on such an easy battle. But it does show the sort of problems that are there throughout the game.
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  8. #78
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    "it happens to me so it must happen to everyone else"
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    Lily Lunaheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magiseanzz View Post
    I definitely agree with this. On a related note, every time I see the first boss in WP cast that circular attack that does the reduced immunity damage/effect, I already start casting Esuna on the player. Most of the time, that player simply can't get out of it in time. Either the circle is too wide or the timer is too short, but that attack is unforgiving. Any healer who's run that enough times can vouch for the imbalance in doge:not-dodged ratio there.
    I can vouch for this. There's something really funky going on with that one attack he does. It's almost like the aoe is bigger than what the circle shows it to be. I've given up trying to evade it and just start casting Leeches about a second after the aoe circle appears. I don't know if it's lag or not, but for example in Titan HM I can reliably avoid landslide, etc. So I think that goobbue attack is just really odd.
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  10. #80
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    Jesse Branford
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    Quote Originally Posted by MieyCyruuuus View Post
    "it happens to me so it must happen to everyone else"
    Why are you still here? No one said it's happening to everyone. We're saying it's a huge flaw with the coding in this game. If you can't see how it's broken that I can run around casting Esuna without stopping i don't know what to say.
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