[[ Why do we miss the old FFXI community ]] What made it special ??

[Linadae]

What made FF11 community special was the fact that server populations wasn't much larger than a small town. Which meant that if you acted like an idiot it wouldn't take long before you were blisted by the entire server. Once that happened...well you couldn't level, do any of the storylines, or get endgame gear. Thus you had to make an entirely new character and do everything again. Which can take up to a year.

So basically both the game mechanics and the players enforced good behavior. Now...well leveling is so easy in both games that you can just hit level cap in a few days. So there's no consequences for when you act like a complete jerk.

[LoLo]

Less complaining, less entitlement, less selfishness, people had to work together to accomplish anything past level 15, people where helpful because of that, people wanted to put in time to accomplish things in the game instead of how people in this game want to get everything now, now, now.

[Pandastirfry]

ffxi > ffxiv mainly because of the community and also if you were a jerk you were known throughout the server.

Ah, the greatest MYTH the FFXI community ever told itself, that this kind of thing EVER happened. You might have become "notorious" to a handful of link shells, but an equal number would think your "jerk" was Rick-freakin'-Astley.

Like for instance, I became "notorious" to a linkshell "for being a jerk". Later I partied with one of their members and they told me how I was blacklisted by the majority of their linkshell because I had been mean to one if their members who was just "joking around". Well, I told them HOW their buddy was "just joking around". He was making rascit/homophobic jokes to the Japanese member of our party and I finally told them to shut up, and that his behavior was intolerable. Needless to say this cane as a huge surprise to this linkshell mate, as his buddy had conviently left that part out of his story about how I was mean to him.

[ShinkuTachi]

The biggest Myth in MMO History: XI's "Kick Ass" Community.

I have taken the liberty of quoting the most honest post in this thread!

[ChriskoOnAnotherLevel]

Yeah, I totally do not remember the community itself being special. Only the people in your LS who you worked hard to accomplish things with were special.

And that is mainly due to the fact that you worked so long and hard with the same group of people to accomplish said goals.

Of course there were the random Pugs where everyone was trying to accomplish a goal, but everyone there was filling a personal need not so much as helping for others sake.

There are always a few humble individuals who pass the time by helping others, those were rare in FFXI and even more so with the game design of FFXIV.

In short ffxi community never that special, FFXIV community never going to be special.

[roohan]

In my opinion it's mostly nostalgia. Yes the community was cool sometimes and I do still remember lots of moments. But I also had lots of situations where relying on others simply sucked. Like person X going afk and the whole group had to wait or at least got slowed down. Or people force disconnecting after they got their drop. Or the competition between groups on certain NMs. One thing that comes into my mind here is yinyang robe. You bring at least 2 people everytime to claim an invisible NM that pops every 72? hours. This was a total bitch fight between people in that zone. Again I had lots of good moments also. Yes I did meet lots of helpful people. But I can't forget the downsides of FFXI. The community changed with the introduction of abyssea too. The moment the game started on easy mode alot of selfish people started to pop up in the game.

[Ferr]

Less complaining, less entitlement, less selfishness,

Tell that to the multiple jobs that were excluded from EXP parties.

What made FF11 community special was the fact that server populations wasn't much larger than a small town. Which meant that if you acted like an idiot it wouldn't take long before you were blisted by the entire server.

Thats not really true. There was lots of jerks and idiots completing everything, including the best endgame gear. Even if they get blisted by some people, they just reagrupped on other HNMLs.

[Husband]

You can play FFXI, the game still running ya know.

The FFXI I mentioned and love is not still running. It died a long time ago.

I did also say I love ARR

[Grundy]

The FFXI I mentioned and love is not still running. It died a long time ago.

I did also say I love ARR

I'm curious, what killed FFXI for you? I quit around about the time A Moogle Kupo D'etat was released, I couldn't believe I had paid good money for that, and by then I was sick to death of waiting for WotG to finish. I briefly contemplated a return when I heard about Abyssea, but didn't. It makes me sad now to think that a BST can solo farm coins in Dynamis.

Funny thing is, I don't really miss the game, but I do miss my linkshell.

[KraggyKor]

I think because most of the players back then were old players they had something called patience, i remember my first party to valkrum dunes was fun even though we died alot of times from gobs and linking, no off us got mad at other players if they sucked at healing or had bad dps gear and most of the time we laughed at how tarutaru die facing the ground and galkas tea bagging them it was all about having fun

Valkurm Dunes = Sastasha, and I don't see a lot of toxic behaviour there, Relic content, meaning Dynamis and Primals/Tomes-SRs I see a LOT of similarity, jerk-wise.

Or, say ToAU 'bird camps' showed as much if not more ass-hattery than XIV's SR jerks; oh, and MPKing in XI was rife end-game, as was HNM camp jerkery.

FFXI was NOT the Nirvana you think it was. At the levels of the game where the XIV toxic community makes itself known, the same was true in XI.