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  1. #11
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    Shadow Flare looks terrible anyway.

    I left my opinion out of the OP because it's just an opinion. Merely talking about the way it looks, I like the way all of bard's aoe's look. I don't know what it look like pre-change (probably a red shadow flare, eh?) but a dome over the top is useless and only clouds up combat that can, at times, be quite busy.

    The only synergy is between the name and the color, neither really relate to the effect to at all. I'd much rather an effect that crossed the language barrier and gave an indicator to what the ability actually did.

    Quote Originally Posted by WellFooled View Post
    I too have had some troubles with Shadow Flare and other moves with lasting graphics, particularly in Wanderer's Palace. The tonberry stalkers are particularly hard to see through all these effects, which seem to darken the background to the point where the stalkers blend in.
    I skipped one of the giants in AK today, and the summoner dropped SF and I absolutely could not see through the bubble to keep an eye on the giant, or on other mobs. I could see into it, but not through or around it.
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    Last edited by Steeled; 11-04-2013 at 12:07 PM.

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    Evangela Monterossa
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    It looks ok, except it's overwriting the enemies' red ring aoe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeled View Post
    gave an indicator to what the ability actually did.
    But it's not a 'slow bubble'. It's just an aoe damage attack. It just has a 5% chance to add slow, but that's not the main purpose of it.
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    I don't know what it look like pre-change (probably a red shadow flare, eh?)
    The scrolling fire effect that is only visible near the edges used to fill the whole circle and it was brighter. Like shadow flare is now minus the bubble and orange instead of purple. Now you can barely see the effect at all. For whatever reason they changed this but didn't change it with shadow flare. IDK. But having the cones draw on top would be a simple solution without modifying the effects of the skills.
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    See this, this is perfect, this is beautiful. I still don't see the point of the bubble effect, but it's unobtrusive. However, Shadowflare is much darker and you can't see the floor, and reds projected underneath.

    Edit: Sorry, I know this isn't shadow flare, because nothing is being slowed. Just that the two visuals are very similar, except that you can see through this one.

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    Last edited by Steeled; 11-05-2013 at 02:08 AM.

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    I would be quite happy if turning off other's spell effects also took away the effect for that one (it's actually the reason I turned off other's spell effects). Or just make it so the red is always on top.. either or!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintAjora View Post
    But it's not a 'slow bubble'. It's just an aoe damage attack. It just has a 5% chance to add slow, but that's not the main purpose of it.
    I'm honestly not sure what the 5% is about on the tooltip. Every enemy not immune to Slow receives the debuff 100% of the time when inside the aoe.

    I agree that enemy attack indicators should always show on top of any other ground effects. That's just common sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steeled View Post
    See this, this is perfect, this is beautiful. I still don't see the point of the bubble effect, but it's unobtrusive. However, quite often, it's much darker and you can't see the floor, and reds projected underneath.

    That 's not Shadowflare, that's SCH's protective circle thing.
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    I know it's not shadowflare. Sorry, I just meant that the visuals for that, which are quite similar, are perfect.
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    What was Bard's Flaming Arrow like before?
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