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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    people blame him because he the face of the game no one going to blame the CEO or the stockholders for being dumb people who want there money now.
    ; ; I know that, it was clear from developer videos prior to the September release that they wanted more time. I distinctly remember Sage Sundi saying they wanted and needed more time in a video interview with one of the media outlets.

    I have a soft spot for Tanaka only because hes the father of the Job system and as the director of the greatest squaresoft RPG (imo SD3 < <) to never leave Japan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scherwiz View Post
    ; ; I know that, it was clear from developer videos prior to the September release that they wanted more time. I distinctly remember Sage Sundi saying they wanted and needed more time in a video interview with one of the media outlets.

    I have a soft spot for Tanaka only because hes the father of the Job system and as the director of the greatest squaresoft RPG (imo SD3 < <) to never leave Japan.
    I trust tanaka more this yoshi-p not to be rude to yoshi-p it just Tanaka did some great work with ffxi and i know he could have made ffxiv casual but still fun for everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    I trust tanaka more this yoshi-p not to be rude to yoshi-p it just Tanaka did some great work with ffxi and i know he could have made ffxiv casual but still fun for everyone.
    I disagree with this completely. FFXI did flourish, but it was at a snails pace. There was a time, a long time actually, where XI was unbearable because they couldn't seem to balance anything in the game and it was all over the place in terms of difficulty. In XI, events were either too hard or too easy and it took a good while for them to balance content and create content that was at the correct difficulty vs the reward you got from it (which was another ridiculous issue. See this repeated again under Tanaka with FFXIV R50 NMs)

    Plus, you have to look at the major content that is coming out soon before judging Yoshi and the handful of new or repositioned developers. If the content is utter crap, distrust all you want, but you are prejudging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang View Post
    I disagree with this completely. FFXI did flourish, but it was at a snails pace. There was a time, a long time actually, where XI was unbearable because they couldn't seem to balance anything in the game and it was all over the place in terms of difficulty. In XI, events were either too hard or too easy and it took a good while for them to balance content and create content that was at the correct difficulty vs the reward you got from it (which was another ridiculous issue. See this repeated again under Tanaka with FFXIV R50 NMs)

    Plus, you have to look at the major content that is coming out soon before judging Yoshi and the handful of new or repositioned developers. If the content is utter crap, distrust all you want, but you are prejudging.
    FFXI was made for difficulty so i don't know what you talking about it was made when players was not all baby and terms of being a casual player. Then wow came and then FFXI was look as being way to difficulty i never found FFXI difficulty .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    FFXI was made for difficulty so i don't know what you talking about it was made when players was not all baby and terms of being a casual player. Then wow came and then FFXI was look as being way to difficulty i never found FFXI difficulty .
    Don't bring another MMO into your point when it's not a comparison issue. So, what you're saying is, FFXI was developed for difficulty, but wasn't difficult. Which is it? You are not making any sense and are actually proving me right without meaning to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang View Post
    Don't bring another MMO into your point when it's not a comparison issue. So, what you're saying is, FFXI was developed for difficulty, but wasn't difficult. Which is it? You are not making any sense and are actually proving me right without meaning to.
    "Am not even going to go on with this"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    WoW came and made everything casual then ffxi was look at as being way to difficulty "I said i never found ffxi difficulty just very fun challenging"
    You're not even talking about the issue I found with the game and you once again brought up WoW. I didn't even play WoW, nor was I comparing it to another MMO's difficulty (<--which is the right usage of the word; take notes).

    What I was pointing out was you trashing Yoshi when the director hasn't even released any major content yet under his reign and that it was prejudging. On top of that, I pointed out the very large span of time in which content was never balanced under Tanaka. In the small amount of content in FFXIV and for many years with FFXI. He wasn't spun gold. Let's stop acting like he was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scherwiz View Post
    ; ; I have a soft spot for Tanaka only because hes the father of the Job system and as the director of the greatest squaresoft RPG (imo SD3 < <) to never leave Japan.
    Hironobu Sakaguchi is the father of FF and look where Spirits Within landed him. Consider this Tanaka's Spirits Within. In simpler terms this was his blunder that SE will never let go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckb View Post
    Hironobu Sakaguchi is the father of FF and look where Spirits Within landed him. Consider this Tanaka's Spirits Within. In simpler terms this was his blunder that SE will never let go.
    Hironobu Sakaguchi, spirit within originally had a very extravagant story line that perhaps would of extended its development greatly but was forced to releases it early, Square wanted to make a profit and deemed it good enough. I believed he left and started his own company due to these creative conflicts. If anyone is to blame for both instances is the money hungry people at Square, Wada.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeking View Post
    Hironobu Sakaguchi, spirit within originally had a very extravagant story line that perhaps would of extended its development greatly but was forced to releases it early, Square wanted to make a profit and deemed it good enough. I believed he left and started his own company due to these creative conflicts. If anyone is to blame for both instances is the money hungry people at Square, Wada.
    He left because he was put on the sidelines for every major project after that until he made mistwalker. That is my point, Tanaka is all but finished at SE.
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