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  1. #31
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    Zezeba's Avatar
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    Zezeba Zeba
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    Ifrit
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    +1 is a 0.0049% increase in throughput per tome.
    Chest is a 0.0034% increase in throughput per tome.

    However there is the vitality tradeoff which does need to be considered if you are giving Twintania a burl.
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  2. #32
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    Aryden's Avatar
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    Aryden Greystone
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Is a Spell Speed build actually better than a Determination/Crit build? I haven't been able to notice much of a difference with Spell Speed, but I imagine you would need a large amount for it to be beneficial. Any thoughts/data would be truly appreciated.
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  3. #33
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    YanDere's Avatar
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    Parry Lyndon
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    I have calculated DL+Relic+1 against body AF2+Relic and the first is slightly more efficient with heals, but I'm going for AF2 gear because i have low statsand need to fix that problem for Coil.
    Heals are good enough, without buffs or food it's 850 with one non-critical Cure.
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  4. #34
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    Nigel Umbriel
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    As Hysterior said, the problem with body is that you'll need the head piece too, and if you can't get them at the same time, you're going to replace a level 70 piece with one level 90 and one level 60 pieces (average level: 75). The best choice should be to replace level 60 Ring with the level 90 Ring, but I personally took the leg piece instead, because the Allagan one is a Turn 5 drop, and you need to kill Twintania to get a level 90 leg piece.
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    "Any dream is a robust harvest. Still, I prefer the timeworn dreams, heavy with import, that haunt the obsessive mind."

  5. #35
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    Soraan Lutece
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I messed up with my myth tomes originally because I didn't even know about relic+1 when I bought my first piece (or I didn't think I'd get it anytime soon). I bought the WHM AF2 feet first (unfortunately), then Relic+1. Then I crafted a HQ Vanya robe and bought the AF2 head while waiting for Allagan healing body to drop from Turn 4.

    Personally, I prefer the Allagan healing body over WHM AF2 body in terms of stats, so I held off on buying the AF2 body. Next week, I will *probably* buy the AF2 legs since Allagan legs are a Turn 5 drop which may take a while to beat since my group just started trying to beat it this past week (pre-nerf, we haven't tried it post-nerf). The sucky thing is you can't even see the WHM AF2 legs over the robe, lol.
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    Last edited by naaros; 11-01-2013 at 12:04 AM.

  6. #36
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    Slark's Avatar
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    Slark Strider
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Relic +1 is best upgrade. WD is the best stat for healing, and Thyrus +1 glows white!

    I personally stayed away from everything that gives spell speed in Myth, excluding the headpiece (due to the fact that I went Vanya+Myth head), and I knew I was going to have access to turn 1-4 Allagan within a few weeks of turning 50.

    Also, if you can, try to purchase main pieces (Head, Chest, Legs, Feet, Waist) before accessories, as they give large VIT increases, and accessories do not. ^^;
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  7. #37
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    Cerick's Avatar
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    Aquel Kuran
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    +1 relic may be the "best" upgrade stat wise for pure healing, but personally, I am sad that I got +1 relic first. I just got my next piece which for vitality, piety, and mind, was the biggest upgrade over DL and it was the legs.

    The legs drop in turn 5, which I won't be downing anytime soon. Will be farming turns 1-4 for other pieces primarily, and only purchase something else if I am close to max myths.

    Cleric legs
    Vitality 29
    Mind 29
    Determination 17
    Piety 26

    DL legs
    Vitality 20 up 9 points
    Mind 20 up 9 points
    Piety 12 up 14 points
    Critical Hit Rate 27 MINUS 27 points
    ADD DETERMINATION 17 POINTS


    DL Cowl
    Vitality 32 up 7 points
    Mind 33 up 6 points
    Piety 19 up 16 points
    Determination 29 same
    ADD spell speed 35 points

    Strategos Helm

    Vitality 10
    Mind 10
    Spell Speed 11
    Piety 9


    Cleric Robe
    Vitality 29
    Mind 29
    Spell Speed 24
    Piety 26
    Determination 29

    Just my preference, cleric legs is the better choice since it is Turn 5 drop as my FIRST purchase with myth tomes. If I then hit max tomes, I'd get +1 relic as a WHM

    Some say that Cleric robe and Vanya are best choice until you can purchase cleric circlet, but to me it is a mute point because those items drop in Coil on easy Turns. With legs being Turn 5, the choice for me is buy my legs.
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    Last edited by Cerick; 11-05-2013 at 06:22 AM.
    Aquel Kuran - White Mage | Zalera | Final Fantasy 14
    Ahrek Kuran - Sith Sorcerer | The Ebon Hawk | Star Wars the Old Republic
    Qwenya - Sorcerer | Tiamat | Aion

  8. #38
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    Aquel Kuran
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Slark View Post
    Relic +1 is best upgrade. WD is the best stat for healing, and Thyrus +1 glows white!

    I personally stayed away from everything that gives spell speed in Myth, excluding the headpiece (due to the fact that I went Vanya+Myth head), and I knew I was going to have access to turn 1-4 Allagan within a few weeks of turning 50.

    Also, if you can, try to purchase main pieces (Head, Chest, Legs, Feet, Waist) before accessories, as they give large VIT increases, and accessories do not. ^^;
    Exactly this ^^ if you do buy anything with myths, don't buy accessories... the Vitality from main pieces is too good and you will need the HPs for Turn 5 before you need accessory upgrades.
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    Aquel Kuran - White Mage | Zalera | Final Fantasy 14
    Ahrek Kuran - Sith Sorcerer | The Ebon Hawk | Star Wars the Old Republic
    Qwenya - Sorcerer | Tiamat | Aion

  9. #39
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    Yoruichii's Avatar
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    Eren Yeager
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    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    gonna be hitting 1.4k myths at the cap of this week already have my +1 still good to go with pants and a ring? and first purchase(s)
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  10. #40
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    Dyssyd's Avatar
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    Xion Wraithaven
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    I went Thyrus +1 > pants > boots > belt. Probably going ring next.
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