White Mage: You should DPS and here's why.

[NekoHina]

Everyone in a party has a role, play it.

[Tanaya]

Hyperion. Bestest Server.

[CSX]

Can you show us how it's done? =D

[Tanaya]

I have FRAPS, but my computer is a little on the weak side for this game and I tend to get lag. The best I can do is show examples of others in a speedrun environment, which is easily found on youtube.

[Rainsford]

I find it insane to see how resistant people are to healers DPSing.

I play a SCH (so it's a little different), but I DPS everything.

ADS? I full-dps the first 3 bosses, and have no problem putting out the occasional Bio/Aero when my Aetherflow comes off CD since I can burn Lustrate if the tanks need to get healed quick (and if they don't, I'll just Energy Drain). In Turn 4, Bane+Shadow Flare means your DPS don't have to waste as much TP.

I've never had any problems with keeping tanks up, even in pugs. If you're not using your DPS skills when your off CD or you're not pre-casting a heal to prepare for an upcoming, big attack, you're a drag on the party. End of story.

Recently started running lvl 50 content on my BLM and was shocked at how I'd run AK and the healer would just stand there doing nothing. Are they picking their nose, I wonder? Has someone knocked on their door and they had to go AFK? it's baffling to me.

[Zanika]

I find it insane to see how resistant people are to healers DPSing.

I play a SCH (so it's a little different), but I DPS everything.

ADS? I full-dps the first 3 bosses, and have no problem putting out the occasional Bio/Aero when my Aetherflow comes off CD since I can burn Lustrate if the tanks need to get healed quick (and if they don't, I'll just Energy Drain). In Turn 4, Bane+Shadow Flare means your DPS don't have to waste as much TP.

I've never had any problems with keeping tanks up, even in pugs. If you're not using your DPS skills when your off CD or you're not pre-casting a heal to prepare for an upcoming, big attack, you're a drag on the party. End of story.

Recently started running lvl 50 content on my BLM and was shocked at how I'd run AK and the healer would just stand there doing nothing. Are they picking their nose, I wonder? Has someone knocked on their door and they had to go AFK? it's baffling to me.

I'm not surprised that you'd say that, since you've been healing as a SCH, but if the healers you're talking about are usually WHM, then you can't expect much more from them.

Think about it! A SCH has been dpsing as an Arcanist till lvl 30. They already had all the tools they needed to assist with dps, and then the first spell you get once you take the job is a heal AND barrier type spell (That's not fair btw)!

Conjurer's had it rough in the beginning. They only got Stone and Aero till lvl 22 (Fluid Aurora has little value in offence and, in dungeons, only served to piss the melee classes off) and even with Cleric Stance, they sucked in damage output! By the time Stone II comes around, most of them got the message that CNJ and WHM are Heal/Support only (the fact that spamming Stone II would sap your MP at an alarming rate didn't do any favors). This is what I think, anyway.

Obviously, there are exceptions to this theroy (right Tanaya?), but, before I get attacked again, here's something to think about: If Shroud of Saints came along alittle faster, things might've been different, and this thread, most likely, wouldn't exist.

Just loving the fact that most people who agrees on WHM should DPS are from Hyperion

GO!

Hmmm... Mabe that's whats going on.. You guys got most of the good tanks, so you have more breathing room than the rest of us! Send a few over to Coeurl!

[sinfull]

Regen isn't always a good ability to use especially with divine seal unless tank actually has a lot of hate as you can easily rip it especially in higher level dungeons with decent gear on. Cleric stance can be a pain to switch on and off especially if tank or other dps takes a few big hits so that's wasted time that could be spent on a cure. Personally I find it easier not to bother with cleric and throw on aero and aero 2 when time allows for it that way I know I won't be pulling loads of hate.

[Rainsford]

*snip*

I completely understand that SCH is spoiled and has an easier time DPSing! If a tank is undergeared or DPS are derping and pulling threat, then a WHM not DPSing is totally understandable!

But some of the sentiment in this thread ("WHM SHOULD NEVER HEAL RAGAGAH") is silly.

[LiadansWhisper]

If Shroud of Saints came along alittle faster, things might've been different, and this thread, most likely, wouldn't exist.

Just wanted to touch on this...

There's a couple of abilities with different Jobs and whatnot that people seem to get at odd times.

SCH have already had their mana regen mechanic for at least half of their leveling time, but they don't get their dispel for another 10 levels after they pick up the Healing Job. Which I've noticed seems to result in a lot of Scholars not really knowing what to do with Leeches. Like, they know it's there, but they haven't become good friends with it, and sometimes I think they forget to use the damn thing.

Or WHM who get Esuna very early on, but have to wait until level 38 for their regen mechanic, and even then they're often left sucking on fumes.

Or Glad tanks, who don't really get a "tanking stance" until 40, whereas I believe Warriors get theirs much earlier (I could be wrong here, tho!).

Just the way that SE has designed some of these classes confuses me a bit. It seems slightly counter intuitive.

[Grefia]

I agree with Peaches. I've been healing in MMOs for about 9 years, and if there is one thing that I've learned, it is that you do your job. I do DPS on trash mobs when I know I have time to recover MP between fights, and in some situations, I take all the adds and kite them around the room while the rest of the group burns a boss, but my job as a healer is to heal, and DPS is not an option in some instances. So telling players, especially people new to healing, that they should be fighting, is just a bad idea. If you can't win a fight with traditional roles, then maybe you should be looking at who is falling short in their job.