We cannot tolerate this...

[neverendingxsin]

So if we see someone blatantly doing something stupid, wearing the wrong gear (can't tell you how many times I've gone into AK only to see the PLD wearing the LNC/DRG gear from there) are we supposed to let them continue doing that?

Not going to lie, when I saw the PLD wearing the LNC/DRG gear (which has less armor than his AF gear) i nicely asked him to switch gear. After a few times of him acting like he was a know it all (clearly you're not since you are wearing the wrong gear) i told him "fine go ahead and wear it but i'm not healing you at all" once he died and changed gear all was well.

My point is sometimes you've gotta be 'tough' on people to get a point across and if a DPS, tank, or healer just can't understand basic mechanics of a dungeon or their class then they NEED to go.

[Pangtao]

Honestly, I get more crap from the anti-elitist crowd than I do from the elitist crowd.

Every time I shout for a PUG to fill a group, I give a set of requirements. Queue that white knight that thinks I overshot the requirements and am being a "toxic element in the community".

For people that go on and on about how people shouldn't force their playstyle on others, they sure do complain a lot. Unlike them, I'm not forcing my playstyle on anyone. If you don't match with me, you don't come. Pretty easy, right?

you've just contradicted yourself in the same sentence.

[BobtheBlackMage]

I'm pretty sure there is nothing in the game that gives a 'dodge rate'. Sounds a lot like a WoW-like request.... But of course we were both there to see the shout right? Besides, if everyone could quantify their dodge rate, they wouldn't be stuck on Titan, I'm sure.

The issue here is that instead of clarifying, or just leaving the other group alone, Livilda chose to mock and abuse them publicly ("troll"). Seriously, that is just reprehensible behavior. The "casual" crowd is often more abusive than the "hardcore" crowd, with a sprinkling of undeserved entitlement.

If I want to run WP in 8 minutes, I'm going to look for other people who want to do the same. If I want people who think have a handle on Titan's skillset and have the confidence to say "Fuck yeah, I avoid more than 95% of his attacks" for a quick, no fuss run, then I'll say that. If I'm not looking for that, I won't demean and belittle the people who are to make myself feel better or smarter than them. If you open up that chat prompt to "prove" yourself, do us all a favor and just close it.

And with that last comment, I gotta ask, who is the selective, elitist jerk now?

[Livilda]

Why does it matter so much to you that you have disrupt /shout with your opinion?

Disrupt?
/shout?
You do realize this is /shout we're talking about, right?

You missed the point. They were talking about a rough estimate for dodging Titan's skills.

I whispered the guy. It was a concrete requirement, and he seemed to think we should be able to prove it. Somehow.

[BobtheBlackMage]

you've just contradicted yourself in the same sentence.

Your reading comprehension is pretty bad. No contradictions there.

[Amyas]

Not going to lie, when I saw the PLD wearing the LNC/DRG gear (which has less armor than his AF gear) i nicely asked him to switch gear. After a few times of him acting like he was a know it all (clearly you're not since you are wearing the wrong gear) i told him "fine go ahead and wear it but i'm not healing you at all" once he died and changed gear all was well.

Uhh... the person was in the right to wear the drg AK gear over his AF, that small amount of defense lost is nothing compared to the extra stats man, its even the same stats as the hoplite tabard (aside from crit instead of accuracy, but that would just make it easier on demon wall). You were the one in the wrong on that one. For real? "I'm not going to heal you"? You're part of the problem mate. Obviously he was using it as he hadn't got the hoplite tabard yet and didn't want to get jumped on for wearing the AF. That was low and fairly ignorant of you. Complaining about defense on a pld ffs xD

[BobtheBlackMage]

Disrupt?
/shout?
You do realize this is /shout we're talking about, right?
I whispered the guy. It was a concrete requirement, and he seemed to think we should be able to prove it. Somehow.

I stand by my original comment. You chose to be the disruptive one. You decided to cast out decency and "troll". You are the problem.

[Kiroh]

I love how one person mentions making higher than average requirements for a run they're putting together outside DF and suddenly half the thread is whining about how that's unfair and unnecessary. So the lesson here is, it's ok to go into a dungeon and make everyone's run 10x harder, but expecting people to know what they're doing and be well geared is elitist and horrible.

[gamesmart]

I stand by my original comment. You chose to be the disruptive one. You decided to cast out decency and "troll". You are the problem.

So we're not allowed to poke fun at others for making silly requirements?
Well, I guess games aren't supposed to be fun anyway. (/sarcasm)

[Ebon_Drake]

WE CAN'T TOLERATE THIS ANYMOAR!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xmckWVPRaI