Please do not lock Jobs to the Weapon Class that unlocks them.

[Zenaku]

What is wrong with that? Especially if you use a affinity system like so.

once again -.- it make no sense that a COnj can be a samurai or a conj can be a PLD it's make no sense sorry i don't know how many time i have to say it.

[Cairdeas]

once again -.- it make no sense that a COnj can be a samurai or a conj can be a PLD it's make no sense sorry i don't know how many time i have to say it.

Again. A Conjurer/Samurai wouldn't be the best choice but the game shouldn't enforce that by locking the choice out, it should enforce it with a system that properly balances those options so the player can determine if that choice is no good. Once it has been no player use it if its that bad.

Also You have to reflect on the issue that your character isn't just your class and your Job.

Its a mix of all kinds of things.

1. Weapon Class
2. Job
3. Assigned Stats
4. Physical Appearance through Gear
5. Assisted Stats through Gear.
6. Personal Choice.

The system you want wants to cut everything out of the equation and make the Character be about the first two only.

You have Musketeer branching off from Archer and Arcanist branching off from Thaumaturge. That doesn't make any sense. Those are classes, not jobs, they even have their class guilds already in LL. Musketeer is someone who uses muskets or guns how is that a specialization of an archer?

It isn't, its just evidence that people still confuse Class with Job and think they are synonymous when they are not.

[Zenaku]

Again. A Conjurer/Samurai wouldn't be the best choice but the game shouldn't enforce that by locking the choice out, it should enforce it with a system that properly balances those options so the player can determine if that choice is no good. Once it has been no player use it if its that bad.

Also You have to reflect on the issue that your character isn't just your class and your Job.

Its a mix of all kinds of things.

1. Weapon Class
2. Job
3. Assigned Stats
4. Physical Appearance through Gear
5. Assisted Stats through Gear.
6. Personal Choice.

The system you want wants to cut everything out of the equation and make the Character be about the first two only.





It isn't, its just evidence that people still confuse Class with Job and think they are synonymous when they are not.

it does not matter what you say at the end players would make you play with the wep is best for the job so why even have it if you never going to use it? like why would i level up polearm? if the only time am allow is in bird camp? and even then most ppl say no? it just a dumb idea overall at the end you can still solo with your fav class and wep without making yourself a job. But once you switch over a job they make you pick the best wep and the best spell for that job just like in ffxi you not allow to do anything if not best overall.

I could never do sam/war because i have to be sam/nin i can never test out monk/whm because i have to be monk/nin the only time i can test this is soloing.

[Cairdeas]

it does not matter what you say at the end players would make you play with the wep is best for the job so why even have it if you never going to use it? like why would i level up polearm? if the only time am allow is in bird camp? and even then most ppl say no? it just a dumb idea overall at the end you can still solo with your fav class and wep without making yourself a job. But once you switch over a job they make you pick the best wep and the best spell for that job just like in ffxi you not allow to do anything if not best overall.

I could never do sam/war because i have to be sam/nin i can never test out monk/whm because i have to be monk/nin the only time i can test this is soloing.

You played with the wrong people I was Sam/War or Sam/Dnc my entire career in XI.I never used /nin except for Thief and Dnc and that was only until Dnc could dual wield on its own.


Hell. I main Healed as a Sam/Dnc in a party and for BCNM's.

[Zenaku]

You played with the wrong people I was Sam/War or Sam/Dnc my entire career in XI.I never used /nin except for Thief and Dnc and that was only until Dnc could dual wield on its own.


Hell. I main Healed as a Sam/Dnc in a party and for BCNM's.

-.- Not wrong people the right people if you ever play around whitegate you was not allow in a party or endgame without /ninja there only a few reason you be sam/war or sam/dnc but most of the time you needed /nin.

[Warlyx]

thats because utsemi is OP ..........even as sub ....

[Sorel]

at the end you can still solo with your fav class and wep without making yourself a job.

And there's the rub. Once we start down the road of only allowing what is useful in party (whatever the powers determine that to be) to exist in the game, we start disallowing what players can do solo.

"You can play a solo Red Mage, but only using a sword."

or

"You can play solo with a staff, but you can't be a Red Mage while doing so."

Either way, it would amount to the same thing. Whatever the powers that be dictate as the "proper" way to play a Job will be the only way you are allowed to play it. Party. Solo. Period.

[Zenaku]

And there's the rub. Once we start down the road of only allowing what is useful in party (whatever the powers determine that to be) to exist in the game, we start disallowing what players can do solo.

"You can play a solo Red Mage, but only using a sword."

or

"You can play solo with a staff, but you can't be a Red Mage while doing so."

Either way, it would amount to the same thing. Whatever the powers that be dictate as the "proper" way to play a Job will be the only way you are allowed to play it. Party. Solo. Period.

My point they try really hard to make RDM a warrior type mage that can attack did we allow them? hell no there was in the back line doing noting but ref spell all day long.

Matter if the game allow you to make your own class at the end you be shut down and not invite if you don't have this type of spell and blah blah blah this is why class would be for solo and job would be for party. you want to have mage spell? and still be a monk? ok do that by yourself and solo.But in a party you most be a monk and only be allow to use this and that.

Even now as a Pug i need spell from other class to even party good and do good dmg.