Do you think bard desired a nerfing soon.

[rhazchan]

1. Sacrificing Damage while playing a song
2. Draining MP for making caster's damage even bigger
3. from point number 2, managing MP so can play Ballad and not blaming by healer/tank who runs out MP
4. Getting 0 TP while doing AoE then playing a TP song again while lowering damage

anything else ?

From the Thread Starter mention I guess point number 4-9 can't be a reason why BRD should be nerfed. Even BRD get a good damage dealt, they still have to do support by lowering their damage.

[AmazingSnapple]

I honestly believe that Bards are perfectly fine the way they are. It's just that the current content with the amount of boss mechanics require a lot of movement, melee dps begins to fall off while range dps increases during those fights. While dpsing on the move may be a bit of an overkill, I wouldn't really see a difference if Bards were restricted to only attacking while standing in one place. When they sing songs, their damage is cut, and they are more of a dps/utility class, while DRG/MNK is raw dps. If a fight requires little movement, given a lot of ramp up time, the monks damage will definitely surpass BRD/BLM damage (if they are attacking flank; you do more damage sitting on flank anyways). The current "meta" calls for more range than melee because of mechanics. I'm pretty sure with future content (if there were no buffs or nerfs and everything remained as it is today), things will change.

[Mikedizzy]

The other thing that people are forgetting is the HP difference...BARDS have to move because we have one of the lowest HP totals. Monks and Dragoons have more and can take more damager without getting owned in the face. If we have to stand still while DPSing we lose on so many fronts that it is not good.

[Lecreuset]

so you didn't think the other 2 threads were enough you had to bump this one up?

[neoreturn]

The other thing that people are forgetting is the HP difference...BARDS have to move because we have one of the lowest HP totals. Monks and Dragoons have more and can take more damager without getting owned in the face. If we have to stand still while DPSing we lose on so many fronts that it is not good.

Your info is wrong, bard HP isn't much lower than any other DPS. If see the team finished t5, their both bard HP is higher than 4600 which is higher than their MNK. The reason you feel bard HP is low is because bard can find a group even undergeared.

[Charas]

Your info is wrong, bard HP isn't much lower than any other DPS. If see the team finished t5, their both bard HP is higher than 4600 which is higher than their MNK. The reason you feel bard HP is low is because bard can find a group even undergeared.

Bard as a lower based HP than melee classes for sure, the team who finished T5 with a bard at 4.5k+ hp was probably full lvl 90 gears or using vit accessories, either way if their monk had the same equipment, he would definitly have more HP. You don't find a group easier as a bard while undergeared, you'll find a group easier because you are needed for mana support, silence or dmg enhancement, and you need to be reliable with those... so yes you definitly need the gears, as any other classes.
Caster classes have a lower HP than bard tho, more damage potential also... and way less stress when it comes to support in battles especially with interrupts...

[Myrik]

bard mobility is what makes bard bard.. without it why play it? might as well be a black mage.... a good pld tank can cover any interrupt a brd is desired for.. so besides mp song what point is there for a bard in a party one they "nerf" their mobility thus making them a much weaker black mage. either keep them dps are make them a real support.. having no REAL support ability and shitty dps makes them well.. a warrior..

[Azoryl]

Bard should have a stance that lowers their DPS by 30%... but allow their shots to heal, regen tp, mp...etc related to some portion of the damage. They should also be able to just DPS without the stance... and not be able to support the group.

[Sprill]

Hunteres were strong in wow because They were strong because of their pets could have stuns,snares,slows.. they were also strong in pvp because of their traps and concussive shots, also scatter shot i think is what it was called.. they were powerful because of their cc. and because of that they were one of the hardest classes to actually be good at in wow.. (pvp wise) if you were decent you should have never lost to a hunter unless they were really good in which case you're going to get crushed in most cases.

[Sprill]

I mentioned hunters in wow because they can move 100% of the time and keep they're up time just as much as bard. that said this isn't wow and bards do have all of the moves that hunters have the only real move that you can point to that straight up hunter is repel.. maybe venom shot or w/e but yea.. I do think bard could probably stand to be nerfed a little i dont think they're that op.. but at the same time i dont want the nerf to hurt the mechanic and signature thing about bards which is attacking on the move not songs... i don't know a bard that gets excited about singing a song as much as they do jumping around shooting... its what makes it fun... that said i would like them to improve the use of songs i'm not sure how but they should be more enjoyable to use... the nerf i would like if they give bard one is just a straight up damage Nerf of some kind.. not a movement hamper.. oh and im all for making they're rotation more complicated if they wish.