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    Quote Originally Posted by Laryndra View Post
    Also saying you can get these for "Free" as a CM drop is a fallacy, since you have to waste ~30-45 minutes to run CM. Opportunity costs. Please check it.
    You don't waste those 30-45 minutes because you are getting tomes from that instance as a bonus. So you can farm tomes and potions at the same time.

    I don't like your tone. Do you enjoy talking down to people or can we go back to a normal discussion?
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    I don't enjoy talking down to people at all. It gets a little annoying to see people whine about something that is just fine. I just cant grasp why you feel these potions are useless. I craft these for my raid every week it takes me less than an hour to do and they help out a ton. Potions were NOT meant to be something you rely on, and the developers have said as much, they are the extra nudge to help you out. The potions are -fine- and they do what they are supposed to do. The only complaint that I have is that you have to choose between a restorative and a buff.
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    I'm not whining, I'm voicing my opinion. Currently I'm scrapping together every tome I can get to get my classes geared. Maybe later on, when I have left the philosophy tier, I will have some leftover I can spare to craft some potions. I still don't see how they can be of any use at that stage, I'd rather use my cd for damage spikes using potions.

    Not strictly on topic, but it's still unclear what the devs were thinking when they made half of the 2star recipes elemental resistance potions, previously taking out the elemental wheel outside of the game. It isn't even clear why character have elemental resistance at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    I don't like your tone. Do you enjoy talking down to people or can we go back to a normal discussion?
    That user is a troll who spends every second of his time on the forum insulting other users. Don't respond, just ignorelist and move on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    Not strictly on topic, but it's still unclear what the devs were thinking when they made half of the 2star recipes elemental resistance potions, previously taking out the elemental wheel outside of the game. It isn't even clear why character have elemental resistance at all.
    Attacks still have aspects, so if you're getting hit with fire, you can still stack fire resistance to reduce damage. What you can't do is boost damage by selecting an element, and that isn't really a bad thing -- you would have to carry an army of duplicate spells which are just selected based on opponent (i.e. same effect, different slot), and you'd have certain jobs preferred for certain content depending on the elements they have. The elemental wheel sounds fun in theory, but it doesn't work in practice.

    I agree that the real issue is how gimped potions are in general. Effects are way too small and cooldowns way too large, and that goes for every potion.
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    Last edited by Gamemako; 10-30-2013 at 06:42 AM.

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    Actually i spend the majority of my time crafting and in between (Or while autosynthing) i come on here to post. Considering I likely have more experience than anyone else in the thread regarding both crafting and end-game raiding I probably have reasons for posting here. As I said above, its annoying to read thread after thread (On differing issues) about people whining and wanting X to be made better or easier because they think (without any evidence or experience to back it up) it should be. I make these items for myself and my raid and they are useful. I think so, my raid thinks so, my FC thinks so, and so do the developers of the game. You're more than welcome to ignore me, but that won't change the fact that you have a weak argument and are whining about something that is fine.

    Potions provide a 61 point increase to a major stat for 15 seconds, combined with other cooldowns and regular use they can increase DD significantly if the entire raid is actively using them.
    Potions also provide a way of relieving stress on your healer when you inadvertently take damage. They heal you more than Second Wind does (A set sub ability) and when HQ are even on a lower cool-down than said ability. Compounded WITH second wind they can heal you for quite alot. Saving healer GCDs and Mana can be the difference between a fight wiping and not wiping.
    Potions also provide you a way of replenishing your MP and extending the number of heals you throw out, the number of spells you can fling, and the duration of bard buffs.
    Elemental resist potions can provide you with ~15-20% decrease in incoming damage to a chosen element. Of all of the potions these are probably the least useful, but in certain circumstances I can see them being used.

    As I said prior, the ONLY thing i would change about potions is the fact you cannot use a restorative and a buff potion on different cool-downs. The potion's effect themselves are -fine-.
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    Last edited by Laryndra; 10-31-2013 at 11:49 AM.


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