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  1. #51
    Player
    Reeth's Avatar
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    Voidrayne Crownguard
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    Ultros
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    I shield lob, then when hes in position, I just hate combo it. If its a white mage whose pulling off you, make sure they use their hate dump when they get close to you, other than that, you just have to keep the hate combo going.
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  2. #52
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    Gucci_Charms's Avatar
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    Miley Cyrus
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 50
    My bad reversed the order lol.
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  3. #53
    Player Risae's Avatar
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    Risae Nyan
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    Louisoix
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Press 1, 2 and 3.

    Damn, that was hard, right?
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  4. #54
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    Soukyuu's Avatar
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    Crim Soukyuu
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunarie View Post
    I've never had issues with a Scholar pulling aggro, and I'm not sure what they have for hate reduction, so no comments there.
    Nothing. Scholars split hate with their fairy, something like 2/3 fairy (if Eos), 1/3 scholar. I have my fairy pull hate sometimes on trash encounters but never bosses, so scholars are essentially always in half hate mode.

    It was a nasty surprise for me and the tank when I had to switch to WHM to let the other member get their win on SCH when I tried to heal the tank going the "Cure" -> "Cure II if needed" route and immediately pulled hate on my second Cure I. After discussing it with the tank, he told me he'll try building more hate and I never hit orange again. Though I admit, I had to use shroud of saints every time it was up.

    So I'd say@OP if your WHM is using shroud of saints and is not overhealing, then you should adjust your rotation somehow. Otherwise, remind your WHM to use Shroud of saints.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryios View Post
    I hate running with sch's in WP because of EOS. They get lazy and don't reposition their pet and they pull the tonberries, every single time.
    If you'd run with me then Eos would be your only healer. I don't even have to get out of cleric stance if the group is decently (over)geared.
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  5. #55
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    HeiZei's Avatar
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    Mr Sticks
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    Adamantoise
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    All these people telling you to flash Titan are wrong. Never use flash on a single target boss fight. Its a waste of the global cooldown and generates much less hate then rage of halone combo. Initiate the fight with Fight or Flight --> Shield Lob --> Spirits Within --> Circle of Scorn --> Rage of Halone combo. Then just repeat rage of halone the entire fight, while always having fight or flight off cooldown and using spirits within and circle of scorn when they are up. Your main focus should be popping defensive cooldowns after heart phase.
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  6. #56
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    Molly_Millions's Avatar
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    Molly Millions
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Gucci_Charms View Post
    My bad reversed the order lol.
    Not really, provoke shouldn't be in your list at all to pull hate initially. It's an "oh shit button". It's only good for getting hate back once you lose it, and even then you have to immediately follow it up with another enmity move because it only makes you even on the threat list with the person with the most hate. at the start of the fight that should be you. So if it's in your list to start that means it does nothing at all except put provoke on cooldown.
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  7. #57
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    zaineal's Avatar
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    Zaein Nathunal
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    Ultros
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    Gladiator Lv 69
    If you are losing hate its most likely a WHM spamming medica/II make sure they are checking their hate bars and force them to dump the hate.
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  8. #58
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    Molly Millions
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by HeiZei View Post
    All these people telling you to flash Titan are wrong. Never use flash on a single target boss fight. Its a waste of the global cooldown and generates much less hate then rage of halone combo. Initiate the fight with Fight or Flight --> Shield Lob --> Spirits Within --> Circle of Scorn --> Rage of Halone combo. Then just repeat rage of halone the entire fight, while always having fight or flight off cooldown and using spirits within and circle of scorn when they are up. Your main focus should be popping defensive cooldowns after heart phase.
    I disagree. While I don't recommend spamming it, Flash is an enmity generating move that doesn't use TP thus giving you more TP to use for skills like Spirits Within and Circle of Scorn. The reason to use it is to put more enmity generating moves into your rotation.
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  9. #59
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    Kare Ruhts
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 57
    Quote Originally Posted by HeiZei View Post
    All these people telling you to flash Titan are wrong. Never use flash on a single target boss fight. Its a waste of the global cooldown and generates much less hate then rage of halone combo. Initiate the fight with Fight or Flight --> Shield Lob --> Spirits Within --> Circle of Scorn --> Rage of Halone combo. Then just repeat rage of halone the entire fight, while always having fight or flight off cooldown and using spirits within and circle of scorn when they are up. Your main focus should be popping defensive cooldowns after heart phase.
    This is close to how I tank. I repeat Fight or Flight + Rage of Halone(Combo). Shield Lob when waiting for titan to return after jump if i'm good on TP. Use Spirits within and circle of scorn in between GCD when up. Only time a healer will take the boss is if they are spam happy with medica II at the start of the fight.

    Might use Flash if low on TP or have a very large enmity lead.
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    Last edited by Pseudopsia; 10-29-2013 at 03:26 AM.

  10. #60
    Player HiirNoivl's Avatar
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    Hiir Noivl
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 50
    You want to use flash for the Blind Debuff after the Heart.

    Missing a Mountain Buster (or even a Rock Buster before Mountain Buster) is a huge help.

    I use blind potions on WAR.
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