How do you tank Titan Hard and keep hate the whole way as Paladin?

[RowanLauron]

If you are losing hate to a WHM, then it's the whm's fault. You can only do so much enmity generation when they spam medica II, when it's not necessary to do so pre phase 5. Even if they still have to, they need to be using Shroud of Saints more often. Full mp or not.

And FYI, I am a career whm. I pulled hate one time on Titan (my first run) and never did it again. You just have to watch it. People underestimate the power Medica I has too. I use it instead of II pre-heart. That's what your second healer is for regardless if it's a sch or whm.

[Naunet]

If you are losing hate to a WHM, then it's the whm's fault. You can only do so much enmity generation when they spam medica II, when it's not necessary to do so pre phase 5. Even if they still have to, they need to be using Shroud of Saints more often. Full mp or not.

A WHM shouldn't be "spamming" Medica II regardless, because of how some of its healing is tied into a HoT. They should only use it once and if more healing is still necessary, finish up with a Medica while the HoT is ticking (or single target heals to top people off, if you've got enough time or people are too spread out). I've never had a single aggro issue healing in this manner in any fight where Medica/Medica II come up as useful spells.

[RowanLauron]

A WHM shouldn't be "spamming" Medica II regardless, because of how some of its healing is tied into a HoT. They should only use it once and if more healing is still necessary, finish up with a Medica while the HoT is ticking (or single target heals to top people off, if you've got enough time or people are too spread out). I've never had a single aggro issue healing in this manner in any fight where Medica/Medica II come up as useful spells.

Exactly. I had to coach a few new whm's in our FF about that. Took some of them a bit to understand though. They seem to forget there is more than one healer, so I had to encourage them to trust their other party members. We eventually won our attempts easily so it's all about the teamwork.