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  1. #111
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    Remilia_Nightfall's Avatar
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    Reimu Hakurei
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    Phoenix
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aureliami View Post
    I'm still hoping that there is a way that nobody has found yet to 100% pass the twisters with no RNG/latency screwing you over. Maybe the way BG found is close enough to get to 85% but there's a better way that's 100%.

    If it's really 85% luck/latency related for dodging the twisters or not then SE needs to fix that because it is kind of embarrassing. Funny that you mention GSB/HK, the whole raid in both those cases was pretty much fine mostly on release except for the final bosses which would bug out constantly.
    Point is, SE kinda stated that they were expecting a very small percentage of playes clearing Coil before the next content update came out.
    We don't know if they just overestimated the importance of gear (we currently lack the level 80 gear from CT, so we are essentially skipping a gear tier - but on the other hand we can "easily" get crafted gear if we have the gils for it) of if they referred to Twintania mechanics being extremely punishing.

    To be honest, the strategy they got could very well be the intended one. 85-90% average success rate in dodging Twister is incredibly solid and way too high to be RNG, especially since it's a World First. My call is that it's simply very hard to execute, and we have no visual hint of any kind that could help us understand what we fail to do when dying from this attack.

    Maybe things will be clear once BG posts the detailed explanations in a few days' time.

    I wouldn't be surprised that this is the most consistent strategy to kill her, for now.
    I think we already surpassed Yoshida expectations, really.
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    Last edited by Remilia_Nightfall; 10-28-2013 at 11:34 PM.

  2. #112
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    Onolock's Avatar
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    Ono Lock
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Aureliami View Post
    I'm still hoping that there is a way that nobody has found yet to 100% pass the twisters with no RNG/latency screwing you over. Maybe the way BG found is close enough to get to 85% but there's a better way that's 100%.

    If it's really 85% luck/latency related for dodging the twisters or not then SE needs to fix that because it is kind of embarrassing. Funny that you mention GSB/HK, the whole raid in both those cases was pretty much fine mostly on release except for the final bosses which would bug out constantly.
    Let's see, Prince, Johlen, and GS were bugged on release if you were in there doing world first progression. Herald Gaurath in ROS was killed with an exploit and bugged for the World First. Grugonim was bugged a long with Darktide and Akylios. I was in Maximation in Rift, so I know all these things since we had many world firsts.

    Regardless, it takes on avg 10 min to get to the twister phase. This combined with the RNG already in divebomb phase(which itself is another mechanic I'm not particularly fond of), makes this fight extremely boring. Any mechanic in any fight in any game should be able to be avoided 100% of the time if it's going to be a one-shot type mechanic, and that's good development and tuning; or at least there should be some sort of mechanic to go along side it, or some way to visually show how to dodge.
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    Last edited by Onolock; 10-28-2013 at 11:27 PM.

  3. #113
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    Raiz Cineris
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onolock View Post
    I'm still not convinced move two steps forward and 1 to the right is how the mechanic is supposed to work, and if it is, this will probably go down as one of the worst and asinine mechanics I've ever seen. 85% of the time you don't die it just stupid. We also don't know that any kind of maint. did not introduce more bugs to Twister that might be exploited. This whole fight has been an abysmal failure up there with HK/GSB in Rift.
    You seem incredibly sour....
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiz_Cineris View Post
    You seem incredibly sour....
    Nope, not at all.
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  5. #115
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    Laifon Covey
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    Odin
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    Impossibru!
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  6. #116
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    Xaimera Zeal
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    Leviathan
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    Lancer Lv 64
    Nice! Great job guys!! ^^ GO ARTHUR!!
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  7. #117
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    Airget Lamh
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    Botanist Lv 100
    The twister mechanic is actually reminiscent of a mechanic few don't realize when going for their relic. When you face off against the Chimera, the move players usually silence can be negated dmg wise if you stand in the ice spots left over by the chimera. SE has kind of hints at the idea that red=bad and blue=good for the most part even during FATEs where if you are with an NPC their AOE attacks are designated by a blue border rather than a red border when enemies use their AOE. When I saw a vid a while back witha party wiping to twister I did wonder why none of them went into the area, since it does seem like a logical point of safety, twisters are tornadoes, eye of the storm is a safe spot and the circular spot does give off the sense of "eye of the storm" and there are two as noted in the video of the kill so even more to that idea of eye of the storm lol.
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  8. #118
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    Tonup Coheed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    /snip
    If this is the case Garuda would be another hint, you must rotate and then she generates a safe zone in the middle.
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  9. #119
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    Lin Celistine
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    Goblin
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Impressive job guys, kinda hoping it would be you guys getting world first. Looking forward to seeing more from ya in the future.
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  10. #120
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    Vanille Oerba
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Congratulations! That was one awesome fight!
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