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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricksy View Post
    It is ugly, You look at the awesome healmets and stuff the Garleans had, and then you have this DL stuff that looks thrown together, bland and ugly. Aesthetically it is poor. Just that awful duck beak headpiece with no spice or interesting aspect. Like the front of a fullfaced Celeta was pulled out at the nose.
    It looks like Jousting Plate from the late middle ages people...





    also note the immobility of the head on those ACTUAL pieces of armor...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandastirfry View Post
    It looks like Jousting Plate from the late middle ages people...


    also note the immobility of the head on those ACTUAL pieces of armor...
    Last I checked you don't NEED to turn your head when jousting, you're both riding straight at eachother. In hand-to-hand combat all an enemy would need to do is run at you from the side to knock you over, then laugh while you roll around on your back like a turtle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephirah View Post
    Last I checked you don't NEED to turn your head when jousting, you're both riding straight at eachother. In hand-to-hand combat all an enemy would need to do is run at you from the side to knock you over, then laugh while you roll around on your back like a turtle.
    This is another annoying myth about armour, heavy plate on average was roughly 70-100 pounds depending on the individual, the average equipment carried into combat by a modern soldier can vary between 80-120 pounds depending on MOS, also knight trained with this armor from a very young age. Long story short knock a trained late Middle Ages knight over, while you're just starting to laugh it'll be cut short by the punch and stab that's coming your way. The myth that knights had to be hoisted onto their horse (another fun fact: the breed if horse common during the Middle Ages is basically extinct, and was significantly shorter and stockier than modern horses) or were completely vulnerable if knocked over is an invention of Hollywood, remember weapons and armour become widely used because they work, and if they have glaring flaws that would completely negate their purpose, then like a maladapted species, evolution leaves them behind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandastirfry View Post
    It looks like Jousting Plate from the late middle ages people...
    also note the immobility of the head on those ACTUAL pieces of armor...
    Also note Jousting is a game, not actual combat.

    The simple fact that in DL (or other such armor) you stare away from your target during combat makes it unreasonable. Using Jousting as justification is comparing apples to fried chicken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zfz View Post
    Also note Jousting is a game, not actual combat.

    The simple fact that in DL (or other such armor) you stare away from your target during combat makes it unreasonable. Using Jousting as justification is comparing apples to fried chicken.
    Jousting drives from the tactics and used the armour of Heavy Cavalry. The armour used in jousting was also used on the battlefield. We have sources that show, when heavy cavalry clashed the goal was if you didn't impale the other rider, you tried to unhorse them, dismount and deliver a coup d'grace in the form of a dagger between the seams of the armour.

    (Fun fact: after the advent of fire arms the armor was ditched but the lance was retained, these cavalrymen were now know as... Lancers! Which is why I believe the class should be called what it actually is, a Pikeman)
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