If this is True, SE is TOO EVIL!

[Crevox]

The reason behind the big file sizes is simple.

Person A has been playing the game. They have their game at 1.17a, which was 300mb. They decide to patch to 1.17b, which is also 300mb. Most of the content downloaded is just 1.17a over again, but there's also some new updates to 1.17b.

Person B quit playing at 1.16. They decide to start playing again. Instead of downloading 1.17 and 1.17a, they go and instantly download 1.17b, which contains all the content and saves them having to download two patches. Only 300mb, rather than 900mb. Even if it's not THAT much in the whole case, it's still less patch files you have to download, and you're getting ALL the updated files and not re-downloading the same files over and over (download a file a, next patch updates file a, next patch updates file a, etc). You download the update to date version immediately and save a lot of time.

Person C is installing the game fresh. Thanks to the efforts made by SE to skip patches, they end up having to download a LOT less to patch their game, and only update to the final revisions of patches, saving much time and bandwidth. That's multiple gigabytes they are not having to download.

Are there more efficient ways to patch the game? Yeah, SE could've done a bit better, but THAT is the reasoning behind it. We, being person A, did in fact have to download a bunch of stuff we've already downloaded in the past. It sucks, but it's not "hidden content" or "laying the groundwork." It's exactly what I said above, and it's what the patch actually is. Patch 1.17b is an UPDATE to patch 1.17. You're downloading the updated version of patch 1.17, which includes the content patch 1.17 provided, with whatever updates needed.

There's nothing "evil" about it. That's how they did their patching system. It has its positives and negatives.

[Renshi]

yawn... Oh! What's this?

*reads*

meh, some theory-making is just stupid. Moving on... Oh, another thread!

[Starlord]

yawn... Oh! What's this?

*reads*

meh, some theory-making is just stupid. Moving on... Oh, another thread!

Thats what I should of done.. but I couldnt help myself x.x *Follows Renshi to the other Thread*

[Azurus]

The reason behind the big file sizes is simple.

Person A has been playing the game. They have their game at 1.17a, which was 300mb. They decide to patch to 1.17b, which is also 300mb. Most of the content downloaded is just 1.17a over again, but there's also some new updates to 1.17b.

Person B quit playing at 1.16. They decide to start playing again. Instead of downloading 1.17 and 1.17a, they go and instantly download 1.17b, which contains all the content and saves them having to download two patches. Only 300mb, rather than 900mb. Even if it's not THAT much in the whole case, it's still less patch files you have to download, and you're getting ALL the updated files and not re-downloading the same files over and over (download a file a, next patch updates file a, next patch updates file a, etc). You download the update to date version immediately and save a lot of time.

Person C is installing the game fresh. Thanks to the efforts made by SE to skip patches, they end up having to download a LOT less to patch their game, and only update to the final revisions of patches, saving much time and bandwidth. That's multiple gigabytes they are not having to download.

Are there more efficient ways to patch the game? Yeah, SE could've done a bit better, but THAT is the reasoning behind it. We, being person A, did in fact have to download a bunch of stuff we've already downloaded in the past. It sucks, but it's not "hidden content" or "laying the groundwork." It's exactly what I said above, and it's what the patch actually is. Patch 1.17b is an UPDATE to patch 1.17. You're downloading the updated version of patch 1.17, which includes the content patch 1.17 provided, with whatever updates needed.

There's nothing "evil" about it. That's how they did their patching system. It has its positives and negatives.

^^^^ this is 100% correct in the most clear and concise way possible. thank you for sharing this.

[Shai]

Patch 1.18 doesn't Guarantee Fatigue being gone, However, they did say on the Letter X that they are changing "Values of sp/exp" and then eventually to come to its ultimate conclusion (SP Fatigue and Physical levels Gone)

I know what they said. ^^

[Starlord]

I know what they said. ^^

hehe =), Just making sure

[Grundy]

There's nothing "evil" about it. That's how they did their patching system. It has its positives and negatives.

I bought FFXI at the EU release. The last fresh install I did was two years ago. The update process took 8 hours.

Now, incredibly, it looks like the same type of update system has been rolled into FFXIV. Are you trying to tell me that in the 8 years since the release of FFXI there has been no advancements made on how to patch a game?

[Crevox]

I bought FFXI at the EU release. The last fresh install I did was two years ago. The update process took 8 hours.

Now, incredibly, it looks like the same type of update system has been rolled into FFXIV. Are you trying to tell me that in the 8 years since the release of FFXI there has been no advancements made on how to patch a game?

If you have your ports forwarded properly, FFXIV should not take 8 hours to patch (unless you have really bad internet). XI's patching system was a LOT different, and this system is a lot faster and more optimized.

Advancements have been made, they are using a peer-to-peer system. The patching system is a lot better than most people make it out to be. Of course, it has its flaws, but every game patching system has its flaws.

[polyhedral]

Today, it was telling me it would take 6:45 to complete, and this is after letting it sit for 20 mins.

If I were not to have used utorrent, I'd still be downloading it at 14kb/sec.

[Jynx]

XI patching is not =/= XIV patching.

I have far from the best internet and these "Huge" updates take me a grand totall of 10 minutes to download. Allow me to go make a new thread for me to unleash my pent up rage.