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    Storm's Eye - Mechanic Questions

    I was curious if anyone has done any endgame testing as to what is considered
    "HP Recovery via Curing Magic"

    Would Cadaceus HP recovery mechanic be effected?
    Would Garuda's HP recover via Sisters be effected?

    Would Miasma be the same effect and stack with SE for 100%?
    "Reduces HP recovered by cure spells by 50%"

    Example (Spoiler)

    In regards to the Cadaceus mechanic of DPSing down the slimes. Would a War with a Summoner or Scholar not have to DPS the slimes at all when feeding them to Cadaceus. Could a War solo MT it after a split and combine because without having to DPS slimes, you could pull 5-8 at a time to reduce its buff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post

    In regards to the Cadaceus mechanic of DPSing down the slimes. Would a War with a Summoner or Scholar not have to DPS the slimes at all when feeding them to Cadaceus. Could a War solo MT it after a split and combine because without having to DPS slimes, you could pull 5-8 at a time to reduce its buff?
    When he combines he goes crazy and starts stacking buffs faster than you could ever dream of removing them. Pretty sure up to a cap of 8. And even if he did get healed for half, you'd be feeding him so many slimes his HP would almost assuredly go up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RapBreon View Post
    When he combines he goes crazy and starts stacking buffs faster than you could ever dream of removing them. Pretty sure up to a cap of 8. And even if he did get healed for half, you'd be feeding him so many slimes his HP would almost assuredly go up.

    Yeah, those buffs do go up like every couple seconds so solo tanking Cadaceus is probably not ideal.

    So with Storm's Eye up would it prevent half the HP recovery from eating a full slime? With Miasma as well would it prevent 100% of HP recovery from eating a slime? Would it negate the need to DPS down the slimes before they are eaten by using a War tank?

    I will check when I get back into Turn 1, but I just wondered if anyone knew off hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    Yeah, those buffs do go up like every couple seconds so solo tanking Cadaceus is probably not ideal.

    So with Storm's Eye up would it prevent half the HP recovery from eating a full slime? With Miasma as well would it prevent 100% of HP recovery from eating a slime? Would it negate the need to DPS down the slimes before they are eaten by using a War tank?

    I will check when I get back into Turn 1, but I just wondered if anyone knew off hand.
    I doubt those de-buffs stack the healing component and even if they did it would be multiplicative not additive. So it would be 75% healing reduced not 100%.
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    Storm's Eye only affects the specific mob that's under it, as soon as the slimes are "eaten" or Garuda's adds are killed they die (literally, they're removed from the game), any DOTs not on the boss will be added with their remaining timers but they are not cumulative (aka you won't see 4 fractures or storm's eyes) on a single target from a single player as the timers feed into one instance of the same ability from the same player, not act individually once the mobs are removed from the instance, as this would disrupt the DOT mechanics when they were refreshed on the mob.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exrage View Post
    Storm's Eye only affects the specific mob that's under it, as soon as the slimes are "eaten" or Garuda's adds are killed they die (literally, they're removed from the game), any DOTs not on the boss will be added with their remaining timers but they are not cumulative (aka you won't see 4 fractures or storm's eyes) on a single target from a single player as the timers feed into one instance of the same ability from the same player, not act individually once the mobs are removed from the instance, as this would disrupt the DOT mechanics when they were refreshed on the mob.
    Right, but what I'm curious about if those types of heals would be effected by the Storm's Eye debuff. Here's a scenario.
    Garuda:
    PLD Tank - Kill the Healing Sister first because PLD can take a good beating.
    WAR Tank - Kill the +Damage Sister first because Garuda is only getting 50% of the healing sister because the SE debuff is up.
    OR

    Cadaceus

    PLD - DPS Slimes to 30% to reduce the heals on Cadaceus when eaten.
    WAR - DPS Slimes to 60% or not at all depending on the ratio of health gained vs DPS done directly to Cadaceus.
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    If the healing mechanics that you mentioned are not affected by Storm's Eye and Miasma, I would like to see them affected by it. But at the moment, I think they are unaffected (e.g. Disease does not impact a Warrior's self-healing from Bloodbath, Inner Beast, etc. so I imagine Miasma does not impact any of those abilities that are not specific to Cure, Regen, and Medica)
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