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    Kewitt's Avatar
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    Ewitt Rainbow
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Well as a Tank, Level 50 Warrior. When I get 3 pulls away from the final boss in AK, And have one bad pull and 2 people leave and bitch me out because somehow we wiped on trash mobs.

    Well the bitching out part really make me not want to play a tank. So basically everytime elitist people bitch out a tank they slowly kill the will of tanks to play.
    Personally, I plan on finishing my relic on my warrior and putting my tank to bed because of how I get treated.

    For everytime I've been bitched out because of my tanking skills I've had 2-3 parties that went perfectly.

    I will Tank for my FC/LSes but not in Duty finder.

    Also I would love to see any DPS player play level 50 warrior in end game. And they would find out how hard at times it is to keep hate and everyone safe. When DPS in all 80+ items gear go all out a tank in item 55 and 70 gear doesn't have a chance of keeping hate. Yet they completely and forget about the threat meter. Or better yet don't even give the tank 2-3 actions to build a base amount of hate. I don't know how many times I've toss out a tomahawk and before I can even start doing my next action the DPS are already going full bore on the mob.

    Also BLM that never use Sleep or WHM that never once cast repose. Saves a lot of healing and keeps hate loss down.
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    Last edited by Kewitt; 10-27-2013 at 03:56 PM.
    Commendations.
    If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
    If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
    If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

    Only if they should be getting a commendation.
    There are always exceptions to the rules!

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    Kerowyn's Avatar
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    Kerowynn Thish
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    Coeurl
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    If a DPS pulls an off mob from me I nicely ask them to follow the kill order and tell them "You spank it you tank it"

    As for DPS or heals running ahead of me I tell them nicely to stop or I can find myself another Instant GF Queue ( If I get a 15min lockout I just Gather or Craft )
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    Biuma Arvinda
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    Goblin
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kewitt View Post
    Also BLM that never use Sleep or WHM that never once cast repose. Saves a lot of healing and keeps hate loss down.
    Yeah, about that. I religiously use those spells but there are incredible amounts of people who strangely prefer to spam weakly AOEs which wake the enemies right back up, even if you've marked them as locked-down targets. So I'm pretty sure a lot of people eventually don't even bother with sleep/repose anymore at some point, and just focus on dps or healing. I use them nevertheless but I've found it startling how in 80% of the groups I land in, sleep/repose is rendered useless by other party members, in some cases even if you point it out or explicitly say so.
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    Olan Durai
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moirear View Post
    Yeah, about that. I religiously use those spells but there are incredible amounts of people who strangely prefer to spam weakly AOEs which wake the enemies right back up, even if you've marked them as locked-down targets.
    Unless the tank is grossly undergeared, sleeping enemies is a waste of time. If you're doing something like Stone Vigil where it's actually possible for a bad group to run out of time, it's actually imperative that you DO AE all the packs of 3 mobs to get more time for Isgebind. Now of course you can also AE and get yourself or better yet the whole group wiped, but in that case your group almost certainly could not have beaten Isgebind before the time runs out so you didn't really lose anything.
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    Biuma Arvinda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astarica View Post
    Unless the tank is grossly undergeared, sleeping enemies is a waste of time. If you're doing something like Stone Vigil where it's actually possible for a bad group to run out of time, it's actually imperative that you DO AE all the packs of 3 mobs to get more time for Isgebind. Now of course you can also AE and get yourself or better yet the whole group wiped, but in that case your group almost certainly could not have beaten Isgebind before the time runs out so you didn't really lose anything.
    IMHO AoE attacks are usually a waste of time and inefficient use of resources. They're more efficient against weak mobs that die quickly anyway. You're usually going to take down mobs more quickly by putting maximum firepower into one at a time. There's an exception when basically everybody spam-AoEs enemies to death in a coordinated effort (the slimes in WP for instance), but if it's only 1-2 using AoEs against trash mobs, they're wasting resources and time.

    I've seen it way too often how somebody thinks they're saving time by AoEing mobs in high-level dungeons when they're only chipping away at all of them, when the same character could have been devastating them more quickly one by one.
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    Olan Durai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moirear View Post
    IMHO AoE attacks are usually a waste of time and inefficient use of resources.
    The AE in this game works out pretty simple. It's damage positive on 3 or more mobs to use AE over single target attacks, and often significantly higher DPS done at a cost of using up MP/TP faster. Since trash isn't designed to make you run out of TP/MP while AEing so you might well kill them in ASAP. For most dungeons, there's no particular reason to AE if your tank isn't comfortable. However in Brayflox or Stone Vigil where it's not uncommon to get to the last boss with only 20 minutes to spare with a bad group, and you're not going to learn how to beat Aiatar or Isgebind in 20 minutes with a bad group, so you might as well AE immediately to shave as much time off the trash clear as possible. If you somehow wiped on trash just because you're AEing, your group is almost certainly incapable of beating either of those two dungeons anyway.
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    Oremus Gladius
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kewitt View Post

    I will Tank for my FC/LSes but not in Duty finder.

    Also I would love to see any DPS player play level 50 warrior in end game. And they would find out how hard at times it is to keep hate and everyone safe.

    When DPS in all 80+ items gear go all out a tank in item 55 and 70 gear doesn't have a chance of keeping hate. Yet they completely and forget about the threat meter. Or better yet don't even give the tank 2-3 actions to build a base amount of hate.
    There is so much truth in this.
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