Just how CHEAP your Sub really is.

[shikarin]

or 2 cents an hour.

Playing MMO 24/7 is the way to go.

Have you ever considered that, it's possible, for people who play occationally that $60 games might be a better value?

[Sephirah]

Playing MMO 24/7 is the way to go.

Have you ever considered that, it's possible, for people who play occationally that $60 games might be a better value?

I'm not saying all $60 games are a waste of money, but the amount of games being released with more than 12 hours of content is getting smaller and smaller. Fallout? Skyrim? Go for it, those are totally worth your money. I even dropped $200 the other week JUST to play the new pokemon, again, worth it. Because I play the sh*t out of it.

But the fact remains that a subscription fee is one of the CHEAPEST forms of entertainment.

If you go to the movies and get a drink you're gonna be spending somewhere around $20 for about an hour and a half of entertainment. You could literally login and play for 2 hours the entire month and be getting a better bang for your buck.

[shikarin]

I'm not saying all $60 are a waste of money, but the amount of games being released with more than 12 hours of content is getting smaller and smaller. Fallout? Skyrim? Go for it, those are totally worth your money. I even dropped $200 the other week JUST to play the new pokemon, again, worth it. Because I play the sh*t out of it.

But the fact remains that a subscription fee is one of the CHEAPEST forms of entertainment.

If you go to the movies and get a drink you're gonna be spending somewhere around $20 for about an hour and a half of entertainment. You could literally login and play for 2 hours the entire month and be getting a better bang for your buck.

This argument is the skeletal remains of a dead horse.

Obviously, not all forms of entertainment have the same hourly value for everyone. Some people like movies more. Those people will get more "bang for their buck" by going to the movies because they dgaf about playing an MMO.

[Ryans]

This argument is the skeletal remains of a dead horse.

Obviously, not all forms of entertainment have the same hourly value for everyone. Some people like movies more. Those people will get more "bang for their buck" by going to the movies because they dgaf about playing an MMO.

Yes, but I personally have two friends that I play games like Battlefield 3 and Dark Souls with. They both play for at least a few hours at a time and we have a blast doing it. I tell them I'm playing FFXIV and they say something along the lines of "Oh, cool. Maybe I'll try it out." and then find out there is a subscription and are completely turned off. It just doesn't make sense to me considering the fact that they both will spend $20 to go out and see a movie they have a feigning interest in simply because one of us invites them, but they won't spend $15 a month on something the three of will play a few days a week for a couple hours a play session.

[ChriskoOnAnotherLevel]

You seem to be under the impression that those against a sub fee are rational individuals....

[AsakuraVN]

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What if I told you, there're other places on the world, where you can buy around 20 meals with $15?... And these places aren't even considered poor countries. It's easy to earn that much ofcourse, but it still make you think hard about your investment, especially when ARR isn't that good (yet?)

And Im pretty sure these ppl will not spent $60 on games that last for 6 hours, in fact they would pirate those, unless it's on the new consoles that can't be hacked yet, or have multiplayer like CoD/BF4. And furthermore they can always resell those games to buy another.

[Sephirah]

What if I told you, there're other places on the world, where you can buy around 20 meals with $15?... And these places aren't even considered poor countries. It's easy to earn that much ofcourse, but it still make you think hard about your investment, especially when ARR isn't that good (yet?)

And Im pretty sure these ppl will not spent $60 on games that last for 6 hours, in fact they would pirate those, unless it's on the new consoles that can't be hacked yet, or have multiplayer like CoD/BF4. And furthermore they can always resell those games to buy another.

I wasn't trying to say there is anything wrong with buying $60 games, regardless of how short they are, I've bought plenty. I was just pointing out how extremely cheap a sub in an MMO is for the amount of entertainment you can potentially get from it.

[Ri_ri]

What if I told you, there're other places on the world, where you can buy around 20 meals with $15?... And these places aren't even considered poor countries. It's easy to earn that much ofcourse, but it still make you think hard about your investment, especially when ARR isn't that good (yet?)

And Im pretty sure these ppl will not spent $60 on games that last for 6 hours, in fact they would pirate those, unless it's on the new consoles that can't be hacked yet, or have multiplayer like CoD/BF4. And furthermore they can always resell those games to buy another.

Pretty much described my place.
Most people here, for entertainment, go for walks, visit friends or parents... things like movies, live music, fast food, gaming, is so expensive that in my city we only have one theater and one McDonald's.

But yeah, between those things, I'd rather play FFXIV.