2.1 coming in Dec, ARR has 1.5+ million accounts

[CrystalArisia]

Link a press release to it saying December for 2.1 with SE actually saying it and i'll believe it.

[sasakusaku]

Have to see, most MMOs that don't suck totally on release do well for around 3-4 months (trial + 3 month sub)....after that is the true test.

SWToR was like that...had amazing numbers up until the 3-4 month mark then most the pop bailed including me.

[RyujinUzikin]

Are they counting gold spammers too? For there are many

[Maoxx]

Have to see, most MMOs that don't suck totally on release do well for around 3-4 months (trial + 3 month sub)....after that is the true test.

SWToR was like that...had amazing numbers up until the 3-4 month mark then most the pop bailed including me.

THIS THIS THIS. Until we hit the half year/year mark with those numbers, there ain't no reason to bring em up. Right now the game still is in the "new game smell" for a lot of people still. If at the end of a years time they have retained these numbers or even grown THEN you may crow if your a fanboy /white knight not two months in.

[Wolf_Gang]

December has NOT been confirmed to be the launch of 2.1

But SE has said Winter 2013. For Japan that could be either November or December.

[CatofNineTails]

Which means more funds for the next patch content. mhmmmm.

considering how big a bath SE took on the flop release of FFXIV 1.0 any profit they will be seeing is not likely in the first 6 months of subs plus all the sales to date.

[Astarica]

Everyone lies about their numbers, though if you feel brave enough to claim 1.5 million then the overall state of the game probably isn't too bad, yet.

[CatofNineTails]

Everyone lies about their numbers, though if you feel brave enough to claim 1.5 million then the overall state of the game probably isn't too bad, yet.

when it comes to PR never ever take it at its word. if the PR exec thinks telling everyone the game has oodles of new players will increase sales they will announce the game has ooodles of new players.

the only people who will ever see the real bottom line are the share holders and even thats not always true they may only see quarterlies with projections of income or losses.

[Astarica]

when it comes to PR never ever take it at its word. if the PR exec thinks telling everyone the game has oodles of new players will increase sales they will announce the game has ooodles of new players.

the only people who will ever see the real bottom line are the share holders and even thats not always true they may only see quarterlies with projections of income or losses.

Yeah but every company is run by the same type of PR guy. There's no reason to believe the PR guy in Blizzard are more likely to lie about bigger numbers than ones at SE, for example. WoW has the biggest subscription numbers not because their PR are more reckless compared to other PR guys, but that it almost certainly does have the most subs. So, claiming 1.5M is at least a decent start in terms of lying. Most games don't even dare to lie that much, though to be fair usually the lie is about the number of active subs, not registered accounts.

[JamieNeima]

Man, was really hoping for November...people are gonna burn out on this game, if they haven't already.