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  1. #61
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    Darkoray's Avatar
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    Dark Firestorm
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I don't manual my fairy. I will place her sometimes, like in AK for the last boss I drop her behind the pillar. Aside from that I don't give a crap what she does. Good healer shouldn't rely on their pet. Although for the last boss in Ak all I do is remove the debuff and let her heal the tank and I dps.
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  2. #62
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    Queezy Fbaby
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkoray View Post
    I don't manual my fairy. I will place her sometimes, like in AK for the last boss I drop her behind the pillar. Aside from that I don't give a crap what she does. Good healer shouldn't rely on their pet. Although for the last boss in Ak all I do is remove the debuff and let her heal the tank and I dps.
    /facepalm
    you need to stop playing SCH right now, just retire it if u honestly believe that you shouldnt depend on your fairy, if you dont maximize and depend on your fairy then you are simply a gimp undergeared WHM. That right there is why SCH isnt seen as OP because few players actually know how to play the job.

    Really what you just said in whm terms would be " I dont use cure 2, good healers shouldnt rely on cure 2" because the difference between healing by yourself and healing alongside your fairy is the difference between a whm exclusively using cure 1 and using cure 1 and cure 2 when needed.


    tldr; the fairy is the bread and butter of sch, if your not maximizing on its usefulness your not playing SCH right period.
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  3. #63
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    Citizen_Thom's Avatar
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    Talking Crow
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    Adamantoise
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    There's no such thing as "Microing" your Fairy.

    You get very little control over your Fairy and even things like Steadying it do more Harm than good because you can't use Embrace without it breaking out of Steady so you lose out on overall Healing.

    Placing your pet gives you little benefit and even the benefit it provides has its consequences, i.e. it has to move to heal targets away from the Tank. You're better off placing yourself in the middle of the group so the Fairy can hit everything with Embrace and you can hit everything with Succor and just spend the entire fight spamming the Embrace hotkey in-between all of your heals.
    This is my experience so far (Only Haukke's and Brayflow with Scholar skills, sub-30 dungeons don't let me use any of the fun ones (Bane/Adloquim) I've discovered). I had some trouble with Brayflow though, because the tank is always on the move, and everyone else is staying to the edges... and it's a big boss fight arena... but otherwise I've found it's best to try to be half way between the ranged fighters and the melee fighters.
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  4. #64
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    Soukyuu's Avatar
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    Crim Soukyuu
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by fnt View Post
    You cant, macro him in game. Thats why you need to keyboard to press 2 keys at the same time.

    Any why against it? You giving out free heals... you faerie is now wasting most of his time waiting for some to need a heal...
    You can press 2 gamepad keys at the same time as well... that's not the issue here. They really should allow macro pet commands.

    As for why I'm against manual healing, here an example: In WP yesterday, at the last boss, I didn't have to leave Cleric Stance/stop DPSing even though our tank dropped to ~1/6 HP after 4 stacks of everybody's grduge. Why? Properly placed + roused fairy had the tank up to full health before the king could stab him again. If I tried to manually control her, the tank would either have died or my dps would stop, because let's face it: humans are really bad at multitasking.

    That said, I'm not saying for everyone to leave the fairy on auto. That's my decision, and as long as it doesn't cost the life of my party, I don't see why it should be a problem.
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  5. #65
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    Sigul's Avatar
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    Tyki Mikk
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    Ragnarok
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Just a random thought on the subject, I was having some talks with couple of players in Titan attempts and I mentioned it would be great to have an ability for pet to let it follow a target, that gave me a random thought what if SCH actually had an Enkindle, that which let the pet follows a target while continuing casting normally, maybe add an extra buff for each pet when its used for the followed target? if the target takes a fatal hit, the pet would sacrifice it self to prevent that hit and maybe recover some hp back, drawback would be ability goes on CD if the pet dies while following a target. I just figured this would be something like benediction. for those panic moments.
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  6. #66
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    Crim Soukyuu
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    Ragnarok
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    While I think it's an interesting idea, I have a feeling SE's intention with Lustrate was to be used in those "oh shit" moments, so I doubt they will be adding it.
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  7. #67
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    Rainsford's Avatar
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    Snuggles Unicorn
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Well this sort of blew up!

    Again, because of the wonky AI, she will literally cast faster if placed. If your tank is at 10%, she will put out the Embraces needed to get it over 80% faster if she's placed than if she's heeled, since there's literally less delay in the casts. It's probably not intentional, but it's there.

    Quote Originally Posted by FinagleABagel View Post
    *snip*
    Everything this guy said has been wrong. I'm not sure what fights he's doing where the Fairy is dying (since it shouldn't happen anywhere in BC), or why he's worried about "fairy overheal", but sheesh was that tough to read.

    Also, you shouldn't ever be using Eos. Her HoT is weaker than what Medica II provides, and the heal buff is on such a long CD that it's pretty much useless. Selene makes you cast faster and makes stuff die faster. Eos is only useful if you have 2 SCH's since the haste buffs don't stack.
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  8. #68
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    Soukyuu's Avatar
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    Crim Soukyuu
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    Roused HoT is pretty potent, so I don't agree there. You will appreciate every bit of HoT in encounters where all of your party members are hit, not only the tank. Selene is a better option for farming content where constant healing of all party members isn't needed. And even there, her AI deciding to silence i.e. Succubus across the floor is a huge nuisance.
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  9. #69
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    Snuggles Unicorn
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    Diabolos
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Soukyuu View Post
    Roused HoT is pretty potent, so I don't agree there. You will appreciate every bit of HoT in encounters where all of your party members are hit, not only the tank. Selene is a better option for farming content where constant healing of all party members isn't needed. And even there, her AI deciding to silence i.e. Succubus across the floor is a huge nuisance.
    What content are you talking about where it would be needed? The only real AoE in Coil is ADS's, and it's very weak and easily countered with 1 Succor or Medica II every 10-15 seconds.

    Maybe Titan? But there's such a long break in between Tumolts that you can single-target heal your group just as easily and, if you're worried about getting hit by plumes after the stomps, Whispering Dawn won't make a difference.

    Again, Eos is useless. It seems like people who don't like Selene don't actually use her. The difference, especially as you gear up, is very noticeable.
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  10. #70
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    Crim Soukyuu
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    Ragnarok
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    I might have to try to use her more. Maybe then I'll see her use. But yeah, was talking about titan and tumult.
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