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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidious View Post
    It had everything that I just said it had.

    Two 40-man raids: Molten Core and Onyxia.
    Six dungeons: Scholomance, UBRS, LBRS, Living Strath, UD Strath, and, if you're going to count WP as endgame for FFXIV, then you have to count BRD for WoW.
    And PvP.

    I hate new WoW. You know, the version of WoW that YoshiP tried to copy.
    And yet, here you are. Still. If you are so fed up with it, why are you playing?

    WoW Raids 2/1
    WoW Dungeons 6/4 (subjective barring how you classify primals)
    FFXIV Single Boss Dungeons 3/0 (^See above)

    You make it sound like WoW had 50x more content, which it didn't. Also, don't even try to say that the beginning dungeons were super hard. They weren't.

    Also for all the people complaining about launch issues, and think WoW's was better:

    http://www.tentonhammer.com/wow/edit...-launch-of-wow

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    Last edited by Swishytail; 10-25-2013 at 08:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swishytail View Post
    And yet, here you are. Still. If you are so fed up with it, why are you playing?

    WoW Raids 2/1
    WoW Dungeons 6/4 (subjective barring how you classify primals)
    FFXIV Single Boss Dungeons 3/0 (^See above)

    You make it sound like WoW had 50x more content, which it didn't. Also, don't even try to say that the beginning dungeons were super hard. They weren't.
    Not to mention all those dungeons were run because different pieces of your dungeon gear were spread out through them. It'd be like if there were 6 more dungeons in FF14 that all drop AK gear. Except the legs/boots drop in AK. The gloves dropped somewhere else. Etc. Let's also not forget that all of those bosses were pretty much tank and spank. Heck, most of MC was like that too.
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    You can't compare this game against Vanilla WoW. You must compare it to MoP.

    It is the most idiotic thing to tell people that you should compare a releasing MMO to an old standard of content density. The released MMO must compete in content and polish with current running MMO's.

    That's why most MMO's have failed, because they thought they could excuse having less content/polish than WoW because they had just released, and while they had sizable box sales their subscriptions plummeted due to the lack of real content.

    If Apple releases a mac with inferior functionality to the more modern Windows PC, with the promise that at some point they'll catch up to the current standards of the cutting edge Windows PC, Apple would be bankrupt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crescent_Dusk View Post
    You can't compare this game against Vanilla WoW. You must compare it to MoP.

    That's why most MMO's have failed, because they thought they could excuse having less content/polish than WoW because they had just released, and while they had sizable box sales their subscriptions plummeted due to the lack of real content.
    Problem is that's just not possible. WoW has had many expansions and have poured billions into their game at this point. The only way you can release an mmo with all the expansion level of stuff from WoW would be to take 20 years, spend billions of dollars, and by then WoW would have even more stuff. No, there's been other games that haven't failed. They just haven't beat WoW. The real trick is not trying to beat wow but to have a stable playerbase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crescent_Dusk View Post
    You can't compare this game against Vanilla WoW. You must compare it to MoP.

    It is the most idiotic thing to tell people that you should compare a releasing MMO to an old standard of content density. The released MMO must compete in content and polish with current running MMO's.

    That's why most MMO's have failed, because they thought they could excuse having less content/polish than WoW because they had just released, and while they had sizable box sales their subscriptions plummeted due to the lack of real content.

    If Apple releases a mac with inferior functionality to the more modern Windows PC, with the promise that at some point they'll catch up to the current standards of the cutting edge Windows PC, Apple would be bankrupt.


    I'm out, this is not going to get anywhere productive. Not even sure why I bothered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swishytail View Post


    I'm out, this is not going to get anywhere productive. Not even sure why I bothered.
    I totally don't care guys. I care so little I go search for images, conveying my absolute lack of interest. I'm so above it all, above even having to give reasonable responses when something displeases me.

    I'm so mature. Screw these idiots.

    --- Special Snowflake, 10/24/2013
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reslin View Post
    No, if you count scholo and them you have to count the other dungeons in 14. Sorry, FF14 has more than vanilla wow.
    You're delusional. A bunch of 1-times fights and story dungeons do not constitute endgame content. And the Primals? I've beaten Ifrit maybe 4 times. I've beaten Garuda twice. Titan once. Why? Because that's all you need.

    And yet, here you are. Still. If you are so fed up with it, why are you playing?
    Because I paid for 3 months of game time before I realized how shallow the game is.
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    Last edited by Sidious; 10-25-2013 at 08:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crescent_Dusk View Post
    I totally don't care guys. I care so little I go search for images, conveying my absolute lack of interest. I'm so above it all, above even having to give reasonable responses when something displeases me.

    I'm so mature. Screw these idiots.

    --- Special Snowflake, 10/24/2013
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    "I'm out!" ;D
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    It's such a shame that so many "content locust" players have downed Binding Coil of Bahamut Turn 5 multiple times already and truly have literally nothing left in-game to do.

    Oh, wait...
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