Just a quick thought on Loot.

[Kolaina]

had an issue once a while ago where my old fc was farming ifrit for weapons. it was just after that one patch that caused many people to dc often. we used duty finder to find 1 dps (who happened to be a BRD, the class i was trying to my weapon for). i dpsd a good 70% of that fight, then got the 90k error code. log back in just as ifrit went down and could only greed on the bow, which of course i lost to the other BRDs need

[Xayoc]

I suppose, but I still find it annoying that people can benefit from zero work.

This is what happens when Socialism is introduced in video games...

[Yamitri]

This is what happens when Socialism is introduced in video games...

Such a blanket statement, I actually had to look that up to remember what socialism, at it's core, was. I do not believe that socialism has any merit at all to my suggestion, aside from the fact of you get what you earn. I just don't think it's fair to provide someone reward, for joining in progress.. especially if they do nothing to earn the loot drop.

Joining in progress is fine, it really is.. and I very much encourage such actions, just do not expect to sit outside the boss room, and still be able to roll on loot.

[Yamitri]

yes please implement a feature so even less people "join in progress"

You're implying that people join in progress for the sole purpose of rolling on boss drops, that they did not help earn.

[Nahara]

Sucks to hear that, Zaiz. =C

Adding in something like this would be more fair to the people who worked hard to down a boss short-handed, only to see their hard word (the drop) get taken by someone who contributed nothing to the fight.

[Lisotte]

Such a blanket statement, I actually had to look that up to remember what socialism, at it's core, was. I do not believe that socialism has any merit at all to my suggestion, aside from the fact of you get what you earn. I just don't think it's fair to provide someone reward, for joining in progress.. especially if they do nothing to earn the loot drop.

Woooooosh... that joke really flew over your head, didn't it?

On topic, I don't think it really matters that much. If it's a dungeon prior to lvl 50 then who cares, you'd have outdated the gear in a few levels anyway. If it's lvl 50 dungeon, you'll outdate the gear pretty quickly as well. Yeah it might suck initially but really, who cares? I don't think it's worth the time and effort of the devs to make it so that you can't join a party after the last boss fight starts.

[DMCain]

Personally, I'd rather they change the loot table for the final boss in a dungeon to provide 1 useable item per character there when the area is 'sealed'. Sub-bosses and random chests are good 'as is' with 1 item for need/greed or coins.

Too many times have I run dungeons only to lose every need/greed roll. And to blow upwards of an hour with no reward kinda makes you wonder 'why bother'.

[MStowastiqVahlshdeh]

When you consider missing cutscenes should it be your first time, missing the other loot, spiritbonding time and exp that came before you joined, there would be little motivation to "join in progress" if loot after you joined was blocked.

If SE wanted to modify it, they would need to give some other kind of motivation to join in progress and make it worth it because figuratively, the join in progress is benefiting those who did the dungeon up to that point and had the disadvantage of losing a member before the content was finished. I imagine that people would just complain because people ditched and thus they can't complete the dungeon without them and without a join in progress option to give them a replacement player.

[xxor]

who cares stop crying I swear the males cry more then the women..

[Yamitri]

snip

A joke about socialism, or possibly one about how it relates to an opinion; possibly circumstance? That joke was not funny, nor relevant. My point was not aimed about gear usability, or even whether it is good for whatever number of levels. I was simply stating that if you get into a boss room, you should be locked for who can vote on drops; if someone joins in progress during a boss battle, they should be unable to roll. Just keeps it fair to those who earned the loot.

who cares stop crying I swear the males cry more then the women..

I do not believe this was a "Crying" thread, but more so a helpful suggestion from my point of view.